Baseball cards on the blockchain, NFT’s go mainstream; Grimes 133tsp33k; Coinbase admits Bitcoin could crumble; pandemic stats; Twitter announces Super Follows; Star Trek news; Frasier’s listening; the Lady and the Dale; Boss Obama not-a-podcast; Gell-Mann Amnesia; bye, bye Fry’s; gadget ages; Radio Garden; Citizen notifications; Dispo; Where For; Sigh, Gone; subtitles; Facebook privacy lawsuit; Tom Cruise deep fakes; Microsoft’s decentralized IDs; German pandemic words; feedback.

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Show Notes


‘Reply All’ podcast paused amid charges of toxic behavior


Some of the Original ‘I Can Has Cheezburger?’ Lolcat Memes Are Now Available Through an NFT Art Auction

What Are NFTs and How Do They Work?

Beeple NFT Artwork Sells for $6.6 M. Ahead of Viral Christie’s Auction

The NBA Has Its Own GameStop-Style Craze

NFTs and a Thousand True Fans

Grimes made $5.8 million in under 20 minutes selling crypto-based artwork

Coinbase says the entire crypto market could be destabilized if Bitcoin’s anonymous creator is ever revealed or sells their $30 billion stake

Bitcoin whales: what are they – and how are they affecting the cryptocurrency’s price?

We’ve been cooped up with our families for almost a year. This is the result.

Twitter announces paid Super Follows to let you charge for tweets

Gig Workers Gather Their Own Data to Check the Algorithm’s Math


Exclusive: Scott Bakula Returning To Star Trek As Captain Archer

Say Hello to Star Trek: Prodigy’s All-New, All Alien Kid Heroes

Don’t Count on Star Trek’s Section 31 Show Happening Any Time Soon

Frasier revival in development for Paramount Plus

The Lady and the Dale

Renegades: Born in the USA

Hosts are Tapping Pros to Polish Their Podcasts

When Podcast Hosts Speak, What Do We Hear?

Michael Crichton on the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect


The remaining Fry’s Electronics stores are all shutting down

Amazon Echo Show 10 review: A rotating screen is a pricey novelty

Radio Garden


Citizen will now tell you why helicopters are flying overhead

David Dobrik’s $200m photo app Dispo, explained

Where For



Sigh, Gone: A Misfit’s Memoir of Great Books, Punk Rock, and the Fight to Fit In by Phuc Tran

Turn on the subtitles

Stephen Fry talks about turning on the subtitles

6 Dr. Seuss books won’t be published anymore because they portray people in ‘hurtful and wrong’ ways


The CyberWire

Dave Bittner

Hacking Humans


‘Star Wars: The Bad Batch’ debuts on Disney+ on May 4th

Facebook privacy lawsuit over facial recognition leads to $650M settlement

Shockingly Real Tom Cruise Deepfakes Are Invading TikTok

Microsoft’s Dream of Decentralized IDs Enters the Real World

Buzzsprout DDoS Technical Postmortem

New GOG World HQ


Longstanding German Circus Replaces Live Animals With Holograms

Hamsterkauf! Coronazeit! There’s a German Word for Your Pandemic Experience.


Mozilla launches ‘Total Cookie Protection’ with Firefox 86 for Mac

Data Protection Commission intervened over school’s ‘rather extreme’ facial recognition plan


Clubhouse bio generator

Kims Convenience Season 5

What is a SPAC?

TRASHFUTURE: The Line is Bored feat. Matthew Zeitlin

Raising the steaks: First 3-D-printed rib-eye is unveiled


Robert Fogarty 0:02
Grumpy Old Geeks a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo. Discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame.

Jason DeFillippo 0:16
Welcome to grumpy old geeks I'm Jason DeFilippo

Brian Schulmeister 0:19
and I'm Brian Schulmeister

Jason DeFillippo 0:21
got a little reply all the follow up.

Brian Schulmeister 0:23
Okay. Is there stuff we don't know?

Jason DeFillippo 0:25
A little bit Well, apparently that they Yes, this is though, on shit we should we already know is now some shit. We're never gonna know because they have halted production of the show. For now they've paused.

Brian Schulmeister 0:37
All right. Pause.

Jason DeFillippo 0:39
Yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do. But it's just it's an update its follow up.

Brian Schulmeister 0:43
Well, luckily, there's no lack of tech podcasts out there.

Jason DeFillippo 0:46
No, there is not. Sadly, sadly enough for us. Yes, but tell your friends if they need if they're gonna miss their reply or fix Come Come join us. That would be nice.

Brian Schulmeister 0:57
Yeah, we promised not to do an in depth series about horrible workplaces and have a horrible workplace ourselves. We won't do that.

Robert Fogarty 1:06
In the US.

Jason DeFillippo 1:12
Well, Brian, it seems NF Ts have taken over the world this week. As far as at least tech news goes yeah,

Brian Schulmeister 1:17
they got a good publicist this week. This stuff's been around for a bit. You know, I it's ridiculous.

Jason DeFillippo 1:27
Yeah. So So NF T stands for non fungible tokens are as I like to say. Not fucking tangible, because there's nothing there. It is just a it's just a file with some blockchain involved you sprinkle a little blockchain on it. Now if you remember 2017 there's crypto kitties. Come on. You remember crypto kitties?

Brian Schulmeister 1:46
I remember crypto kitties. Yes. We all had a good laugh at that. But they're back. I like to call this I do like your your terminology as well. I call it baseball cards on the blockchain. That's pretty much it. Yes. That's all this is. But I mean, I don't have anything necessarily against it. I you know, hey, Bitcoin not scary enough for you invest in these kids.

Jason DeFillippo 2:10
Yeah, this is just the the logical extrapolation of what people have to do when they have too much money and not enough time and are just bored out of their mind from the pandemic. It's like, okay, let's spend millions of dollars on a GIF.

Brian Schulmeister 2:23
Alright, yeah, but but it's a gift only you can own Jason,

Jason DeFillippo 2:27
but you can see it, but I own it. Now, I was thinking about which I was thinking about ways to make it more clever, you know, it's like, Okay, let's do let's look at that original piece of art. You know, let's put some steganography in there and have like some art under the art have, you know, like a painting under the painting and then you as the owner, the only one that gets the the password to unlock the encrypted image underneath that would be kind of fun, you know, in the Da Vinci Code sort of way. But otherwise, I mean, I came across this because Eric Nakagawa, the guy who started off I can has cheezburger put up some of his original, original art original. I'm sorry, I gotta roll my eyes every time I say it is original art on open sea and just trying to sell it and I'm like, okay, what's this? This makes no sense. I have to look deeper. And I didn't take very long because I had been missing the biggest story that week. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Basically, because people great name for an artist people got a piece up at Christie's and is going to make a gazillion dollars. He's already made a gazillion dollars doing this NFT scam. dealio. And I you know, I worked with my dad in the art world for 30 years now. So I know a little bit about fine art. And my dad has always told me and we're not supposed to tell anybody but it's all bullshit. You're not selling a piece of paper you're selling a story. Kind of the same thing with $1 bill, you're selling a story with that piece of paper. Now you don't even get the fucking paper

Brian Schulmeister 4:05
Yeah, I mean, that is the the weird thing is that it's just it's everything is getting so far removed now, right? Like, I mean, we have this conversation, certainly, you know, college getting stone conversations about what is money now that it's been you know, removed from any real connection to gold or whatever. You know, it's a social construct. It's a social contract that we're going to believe that this is something that we're all going to believe in and we're doing that with Bitcoin and this is just the latest thing you know, we've we've done it with everything Everything is gone digital now we don't actually own music, per se and we don't own movies and while you do you have stacks of blu rays and no blu ray player anywhere, but

Jason DeFillippo 4:47
therein lies there. Oh, yeah, I get it. Can I get a DVD player on the blockchain?

Brian Schulmeister 4:54
We're just moving away from the concept of anything being really physical or anything so why not art And you know, the thing is, it's a game for the rich. This is a game for people that have too much money, and will the people that are just scraping together what little cash that they have to buy in on this trend, especially right now because everything is vastly overpriced because it's in the news, and it's super popular right now. We'll see. You know, like I said, it came to my attention a little while back because of the sports world, because they've gotten in on this as well. So the NBA has its own this thing called top shot. So you know, you can watch clips anywhere of any game, but now you can have through top shot and the deal with the NBA. You can buy really cool dunks and you can own them. Yeah, even though everybody else in the world can see them. You're the one that owns this thing. Again, it's baseball cards on the blockchain. That's all.

Jason DeFillippo 5:51
I know, I don't know about you. But my fingers are getting tired from doing the air quotes around own every time I say I'm like, you can own it. Yes. But do you really? Yes, I guess, if you believe in the blockchain, so at least crypto kitties did one thing for aetherium. And that's fix the technology behind it. Because, you know, they basically took down the entire system with crypto kitties. Yeah, a couple years ago. So they've shorted up now. So now it's a thing. Do you still have Did you? Oh, you unloaded your ether from your Coinbase account, didn't you?

Brian Schulmeister 6:23
Yeah, I think I might have screwed up on that one. Yeah, around but longer. No, well, I like my fungible assets. Exactly. Or at least whatever that means. Because again, you think about it, you buy stock, you don't even get a stock certificate anymore, you get nothing. It's all just out there somewhere. But at least in theory, when I'm buying stock, I am purchasing part of a company that actually makes things for the most part. Now I need to purchase a company that makes makes these NF T's So then I'm actually really putting money into something that I get absolutely nothing physical back for a company that produces nothing physical.

Jason DeFillippo 6:58
Yeah. I'm telling you, man, we I think this might be a business. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna set up an open sea account and start putting up some Photoshop docs. If you wanna, if you want to own grumpy old geeks, 1.0 artwork.

Brian Schulmeister 7:11
I think we should put, I'll have to start doing a better job of making sure I'm not ever using anything copywritten in our album, our show artwork, but we should put a new episode, you can own one of our shows. We'll put up every show art episode. Why not?

Jason DeFillippo 7:27

Brian Schulmeister 7:27
Somebody will buy it.

Jason DeFillippo 7:29
Yeah. And how does this work with copyright?

Brian Schulmeister 7:32
I don't know. Because it is interesting, particularly with some of the digital assets that you're seeing being put up because, you know, there was a lot of it was a lot of stealing things in the early days of the internet, but hey, Pinterest still exists a fucking

Jason DeFillippo 7:43
fuck it. Yeah, seriously, if Pinterest can go public, we can sell our show art dammit.

Brian Schulmeister 7:48
That's what I'm thinking.

Jason DeFillippo 7:51
Man, I do. I do like one aspect of it since it is aetherium. And it is based on the smart contracts. When you resell that the actual artists can say hey, every time you resell it, I want to cut that comes back to me, which I think is actually really cool. That is the one thing that I think is the neat part about it.

Brian Schulmeister 8:09
I heard that William Shatner did that that he sold a whole bunch of different photos of himself and anytime they're resold, he basically gets ongoing royalties from it assuming people are trading pictures of William Shatner on the internet. But hey, stranger things have happened.

Jason DeFillippo 8:23
Stranger things have happened for sure.

Brian Schulmeister 8:25
Yeah. Like Grimes right?

Jason DeFillippo 8:28
Grimes Yeah, okay, so you know, talk about you know, a game for rich people. Rich just get richer. She just made $5.8 million in 20 minutes selling her artwork. Did

Brian Schulmeister 8:38
you look at her or do you look at the the art is horrific.

Jason DeFillippo 8:41
Oh, it's so bad. so bad. It is so bad.

Brian Schulmeister 8:47
But you know, she made $5.8 million

Jason DeFillippo 8:50
in ft smh. Oh, man, and I love this. She was creating this mythical universe called other kin of course with a three instead of an E and I would just like to point out in the 90s have called they want their fucking leet speak back. Please.

Brian Schulmeister 9:05
Remember those days good times? Yeah, I mean, Hey, good on you. Grimes. I mean, again, it's a game for the rich and you know, I guess to some degree, it'll help some struggling artists out if they can figure out how to get involved in all this and get themselves up there and it's just another marketplace right? But buyer beware that's that's all I would say about this sort of stuff. And you know, I'm a little surprised Where the fuck is Amanda fucking Palmer in this? Yeah, usually the first to jump on these money making schemes? No doubt,

Jason DeFillippo 9:35
no doubt in where's the porn? You know? I wouldn't my balls calm Do you want to

like sit there and

Brian Schulmeister 9:43
get that somebody get that domain now?

Jason DeFillippo 9:48
come on by my balls by Bob balls. If I

Brian Schulmeister 9:52
only fans really needs to get into this real quick.

Jason DeFillippo 9:55
Oh my god. Yeah. You know somebody over there like cranking on that right now. And speaking of crypto and how crazy this is coin base is getting ready to go public. And I just this, this is the greatest thing ever. So they had to they basically had to send an email to Satoshi Nakamoto whoever he she it may be said yes, we're going to do this but then they also had to release to the possible investors that if Satoshi Nakamoto ever releases their Bitcoin back into the wild, the entire market will tank. Yep. So that's Yeah, talk about a nuclear bomb over an entire quote unquote, industry to use my finger my quote fingers again. Yeah, that that's something that'll keep you up at night if you think about it too hard. Hmm.

Brian Schulmeister 10:42
Now if you have too much money in Bitcoin, certainly, yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's not a regulated currency.

Jason DeFillippo 10:50
What do you know, and I love this there, there are 1000 individuals that they call the whales who own 14% of the Bitcoin market. So if you think that those guys aren't getting together, and and manipulating the quote, unquote, market to, you know, rise and lower as they see fit, you are more naive than I could even imagine. Well,

Brian Schulmeister 11:10
before we get too high and mighty about crapping on Bitcoin for those kind of metrics, let's keep in mind real currency and the whales known as Bill Gates, and Bezos and Zuckerberg. Yeah, who owned most of our real currency.

Jason DeFillippo 11:23
That's true, too. You know, I guess it doesn't really matter. You're at the whims of the the whims of the whales, no matter where you go. That's right. I had a dream about this the other night and I thought, after I read that article, I'm like, wouldn't it be awesome if Banksy was Satoshi Nakamoto. And as soon as coin base goes public, all of the all of his Bitcoin are released into the world just like you know, when the painting got sold at auction and shredded itself. How awesome would that be?

Brian Schulmeister 11:53
It should just announce that release all the Bitcoin and then put all of his artwork up as NF Ts. I'm moving over here.

Jason DeFillippo 12:01
Oh, fire sale fire sale. Yeah.

Brian Schulmeister 12:03
So I read a really interesting article over on the washington post about we've been cooped up with our families for almost a year. In fact, we're like next episode, we're coming up on the year mark, the last time that you and I saw each other in the last time that we basically did anything. And they've got a lot of metrics and a lot of really interesting stats and it's super fucking depressing. I don't know if you had a chance to go look at the article and look at all the graphs but

Jason DeFillippo 12:28
no need to I I just look around the house.

Brian Schulmeister 12:30
I don't need to to get a graph. And yet we are we are sick of our families. We have been doing some exercise, but whatever exercise that we've been doing, we've actually doubled down on TV and snacking. We are not coming out of this healthy either physically or emotionally.

Jason DeFillippo 12:45
I don't know I think the greatest thing about this I actually have lost weight my numbers are back down from the you know don't die Jason hashtag days of late September. So I don't know for me it kind of worked out. Okay. I think you know, people like us were Well, before you you have a family. So you're screwed. You have a kid and a wife. Yeah. Basically, you're just as your Yeah.

Brian Schulmeister 13:07
It has not been fun. As much as I've tried to stay stay healthy and get workouts in. It's definitely catches catch can around here. But what I thought was really interesting is they asked economics, economics is what if they could name a previous time when our daily fed? So suddenly, economics this? Yeah, you got me thinking all money is just funny money at this point. So economics, this sounds good enough to me.

Jason DeFillippo 13:33
They study the Eco nomicon.

Brian Schulmeister 13:34
That's right. It's the latest Neil Stevenson book that's about 9000 pages and tells you nothing. Sorry, did not like that series. Basically, they basically said that nothing like this has happened since the Black Death in terms of our patterns have shifted so suddenly, so that's awesome.

Jason DeFillippo 13:55
That's great. It's great. Speaking of shifting patterns, Twitter has finally maybe sort of announced that they're going to try and do something to make money.

Brian Schulmeister 14:04
Yeah. Super follows.

Jason DeFillippo 14:08
Super follows and super tweets. So they're gonna try and turn themselves into Patreon, basically. And, yeah, no, no,

Brian Schulmeister 14:18
it's public and private tweets, right, basically. So you could tweet publicly or you can flag your tweet as a tweet that only your super followers can see.

Jason DeFillippo 14:26
Yes. That's okay. Basically, it alright.


I you know, what, for 599 or 499 a month, I would just like to be able to edit a tweet. That's all I just want to be able to edit a damn tweet. I'll give you 20 bucks a month. If I could edit tweets.

Brian Schulmeister 14:42
I saw a lot of the same joke going around on Twitter saying I'd pay 499 a month not to see some people's tweets.

Jason DeFillippo 14:47
Yeah. Oh my god. And I just loved that. As soon as the news came out on this, the biggest trending topic on Twitter was rip Twitter.

Brian Schulmeister 14:58
Well, you know, nothing's gonna happen. Some people will be successful at this, some people won't. Again, the landscape is so fractured, like if you're a content creator like us, I mean, obviously, I think we need to move to NF T's because they seem to actually make sense and make money. But what are we supposed to do? We're already asking people to throw us a few shekels on paypal. If they can't do PayPal, we're asking them to still throw a few shekels on Patreon. If you can't do Patreon, buy our coffee mug if you can't buy our coffee mug, buy a damn mask. Now what we're supposed to fracture it even more and like do super tweets. What what super tweet somebody fix all this crap? Yeah,

Jason DeFillippo 15:34
I'm pretty pleased. It's not going to be jack. We just know that,

Brian Schulmeister 15:38
you know, again, it comes down to what what we actually want what is value added from Twitter, I would pay 499 a month for a no ads and a straightforward timeline. That would be it. But are we gonna get that? No, no, we're not gonna I have

Jason DeFillippo 15:51
to say though, the straightforward timeline has been working pretty well it used to you know, every time you reload, it would switch from latest algorithmic tweets, but I haven't had to change it back in you know, a month or so now on any of the platforms it used to just flip willy nilly. But now you put it on latest it stays on latest

Brian Schulmeister 16:09
that's that's a plus. Thanks, jack.

Robert Fogarty 16:16
Media Candy

Brian Schulmeister 16:19
I don't know if you watch the from home Golden Globes. Oh, the latest award ceremony. Look, my wife loves award ceremony. So I usually get stuck watching them. The Golden Globes one generally tend to be kind of fun because they're basically meaningless. And usually you get a host like Ricky Jarvis, who just you know, gets drunk and craps on everybody while everybody in the audience is getting drunk. So there's some humor to be had there. But these virtual award shows have made me realize I no longer ever have any interest in watching award shows ever again. I mean, they strip away all the artifice it is just rich people sitting in their living rooms.

Jason DeFillippo 16:54
Yeah, that's kind of it. And it was I mean, it was bad. It was bad. They didn't even really try I felt like so. I think I watched the first hour and a half and just gave up and went and watch something. I don't know anything else. I can't even remember what I watched it. It was better than what I was watching there.

Brian Schulmeister 17:10
Yes, but you can get clips from the Golden Globe as an NF t now Oh, yeah. No, I'm kidding. No, but everybody should do that. I'm surprised they didn't. Anyways, I got some Star Trek News. I'm they must have felt that I was getting ready to hit the Cancel button on that CBS all access subscription because they just dumped a whole bunch of news on us. This one is a maybe, but give some sort of source that has been right a lot of the time is saying that Scott bacula is going to be returning to Star Trek is Captain Archer. Okay,

Jason DeFillippo 17:40
I never finished enterprise but I liked

Brian Schulmeister 17:42
it. I liked it. I think that it wasn't served well by the ending, but it was a good show. But they're gonna have him cameo in some Star Trek show. Hard to figure out the timelines on that. But then again, they've opened up time travel again, again, and they're gonna leave the door open for him to headline in his own solo series, which we once called enterprise.

Jason DeFillippo 18:00
Yeah. What are we gonna do with it? What's

Brian Schulmeister 18:03
the lead?

Okay, so we'll see. We've also seen Star Trek prodigies, actual alien kid Heroes for the first time they've released some artwork from that. No humans, but that's kind of cool. It'll be the first entirely non human heroes of a Star Trek show.

Jason DeFillippo 18:21
Okay, and

Brian Schulmeister 18:21
that's the one that Janeway is coming back for so Oh, and it's made for kids. I'm hoping I'll be able to watch that with my kids. So we'll see.

Jason DeFillippo 18:28
Is it live action or animated? animated? animated?

Brian Schulmeister 18:31
Ah, bummer. Well, yeah, they're not going to spend that much money on a kid show Jason. Now. I don't like watching real people 99% of the time needed to

Jason DeFillippo 18:39

Brian Schulmeister 18:40
And honest. Yeah, neither do adults. Yeah. And we finally have some information about Star Trek section 31 but the information is that the show is not happening anytime soon. It's only going to happen when one of the five current Star Trek projects discovery prodigy lower decks, Picard and strange new worlds is over so that could actually be pretty close because I don't see Picard going on and on and on. I'm thinking we're gonna get one maybe two more seasons of a card.

Jason DeFillippo 19:05
Yeah, we don't need any more lower deck so they can just scrap that one.

Brian Schulmeister 19:09
I tend to agree with that. Yeah. And and I guess I got to start transitioning no longer CBS all access Paramount plus Paramount plus news and in a way that they will continue to keep my monies they are bringing back Frasier. I'm excited about that. I love that show. But Niles

Jason DeFillippo 19:25
is better be back because if Niles isn't there, then I don't care.

Brian Schulmeister 19:28
Yeah, well, I need I need everybody that's still alive. Unfortunately, the father has passed away. Yeah, probably the dog dogs longer anybody that's still alive. Niles. Roz, Daphne? I want them all back because I still I really love that show. It's so comforting.

Jason DeFillippo 19:42
Okay, never really got into it that that much. But I got into it more than friends. So I have seen at least you know, well, a couple dozen episodes. All right. I did watch lady in the Dale on HBO max over the past couple of weeks and What a crazy crazy story. This one was. It started out as the story of Jerry Dean Michael. And he was basically a low rent con artist, you know, thug gangster kind of guy. And but in the middle of it, it switched over to the story of Elizabeth Carmichael, who was used to be Jerry Dean Michael. So it's basically about a trans woman, who then was still kind of a low rent con artists person and tried to sell this three wheeled car the Dale and got in probably a little too, over her head with the con on this one ended up going on the run many many times for many, many years finally gets caught and it's it's a fairly interesting story. And the really real evil person in this is dick Carlson. Do you remember him from LA news when you were growing up?

Brian Schulmeister 20:53
vaguely? Yeah.

Jason DeFillippo 20:55
Yeah, yeah, he's a real piece of work. He basically just ruined her life just kept, you know, hammer and on her hammer and on her hammer and honor about the the transactional thing and he was just he was a real dick. I mean, not to have a pun there because name is dick. What what really sets the stage though dick Carlson? Is the father of Tucker Carlson. So there's a direct line of asshole array in that family.

Brian Schulmeister 21:21
The dick doesn't fall far from the balls.

Jason DeFillippo 21:24
No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. So it was really good. I highly recommend it. And there's some really interesting trans history in there as well. It's a you'll learn a lot. And it's, it's a strange one because you think it's one story then it's another story then it turns out to be completely other story. So there's layers on layers in there. It's four episodes, so you can you can punch through it in an afternoon. And everybody's saying that renegades born in the USA the new quote, unquote, podcast from Bruce Springsteen and Barack Obama is is the tits, but it's not a fucking podcast. So everybody quit calling it a podcast. It's on Spotify. Damn it. I'm gonna keep banging on that till somebody loses what it is.

Brian Schulmeister 22:05
That is a hill you will die on alone. Unfortunately, that has passed us by now is this thing? Is it a regular thing? Or was it a one off? Like, are these two getting together and like, you know, like us every Tuesday morning, they roll out of bed go into their garages? Fire up their microphones?

Jason DeFillippo 22:20
I do believe it's a show. Yeah.

Brian Schulmeister 22:24
Wow. Okay. Yeah,

Jason DeFillippo 22:25
they've got three episodes

Brian Schulmeister 22:26
until they get reply old.

Jason DeFillippo 22:29
Wouldn't that be? Yeah, Bruce is like, Barry tried to touch me. It was a bad scene. It was a bad scene. Oh my god. So and we have multiple multiple mainstream news organizations talking about podcasting. This week. We've got the Wall Street Journal, how hosts are tapping pros to polish their podcasts. And then we've got the New York Times article when podcast host speak. What do we hear story about somebody who tried to talk like a podcaster. here's, here's a pro tip. It ain't hard. And I've got a couple other ones. Yeah, I got one from Forbes that I have to still put in the show notes. But the thing is, it's like all of these mainstream news organizations are talking about podcasting. And we got tagged on a quote from Michael Creighton, talking about the Gelman amnesia effect this week. And it this totally hits home for me reading all of these podcasting articles on mainstream media and I forgot about this. I'm going to read it to you real quick, Brian. Okay. Briefly stated, The Gell Mann amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject, you know, well, you read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often the article is so wrong, it actually presents the story backwards, reversing cause and effect. I call these the wet streets, wet streets cause rain story. It's pretty funny. In any case, you read with exasperated or amusement the multiple errors in a story and then turn the page to national or international affairs and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page and forget what you know. Yeah, I totally found myself doing that this week reading these really stupid podcasting articles where they get so much wrong and then I'm like, well, let's see what's going on in vaccine news.

Brian Schulmeister 24:28
Surely they're right about cryptocurrency?

Jason DeFillippo 24:32
Yes. Tell me more about NF T's please.

Brian Schulmeister 24:44
Well, a bit of sad news is more of my childhood is slowly disappearing. The remaining Fry's Electronics stores are all shutting down then they've been mostly West Coast based shopping destinations for gadgets. I built computers from parts that I would buy There used to be a wonderful place to go to and spend an awful lot of money. Oh, yes. But they're all going out of business because you know, Amazon.

Jason DeFillippo 25:07
Yeah. Which one did you go to the most?

Brian Schulmeister 25:10
Well, when I was younger and I was down in Orange County or even when I was in college because I would just go to my parents, I'd go to the one that was in kind of like the planet Park area.

Jason DeFillippo 25:19
What was the theme on that

Brian Schulmeister 25:20
one, though? I don't remember actually. Sadly. It's been so long. I think it was the UFO one.

Jason DeFillippo 25:25
Now. That's Burbank. Burbank was the UFO. The UFO smashed in the front. You walk in? There's a giant court. No, yeah, there's the best. Yeah, I have one here. And we had one close out about a year ago here in Woodland Hills. We had the Alice in Wonderland one.

Brian Schulmeister 25:38
Oh, never went to that one.

Jason DeFillippo 25:39
Oh my god. We had a probably a 50 foot long Jabberwocky hanging from the ceiling. It was fantastic. It was totally fantastic. I love that one. And I spent 10s of 1000s of dollars on the old school DVDs back then, on my on my plastic collection. I would go there every Friday after I got paid and pick up a bunch of DVDs and computer parts and crap that I didn't need. I will miss fries.

Brian Schulmeister 26:04
Yep. It was the best so many impulse buys.

Jason DeFillippo 26:08
Yeah, they were really good at that that checkout lane that was just two and a half miles long. had everything on the planet, you could just pick up and throw in your basket. It was bad. It was bad. Exactly. iPod is now 20 years old, believe it or not.

Brian Schulmeister 26:21
All right, I can sadly believe that.

Jason DeFillippo 26:24
Yeah, unfortunately, I know. I know. I had mine for I think up until about five years ago. But it got to be too scary. Because the battery was all swollen. I'm like, I know this thing is gonna blow up and catch fire and burn my house down. And I can't handle that.

Brian Schulmeister 26:40
I wish that Apple would actually cater somewhat to to nostalgia, I would love them to release a new version that is just the same as the old school I want. I want the spin wheel. I want the 60 gig hard drive in there, I want the whole deal. That would be amazing. Of course, they'd actually have to release a functioning version of Apple Music or iTunes to facilitate that

Jason DeFillippo 27:00
never happened, but they'd have to make iTunes work again. There's your hat make iTunes work again. Now and since since iPod turned 20, somebody posted a list of how old some of these other gadgets are. And I was a little surprised at this. iPad. 11 years old Fitbit is 13 years old. It seems like not it doesn't seem like 13 years since a Fitbit came out at all. iPhone 14 years old Kindle 14 years old. And surprisingly enough, my Kindle first gen still works with the cell with the cell connection that you bought once and you can still use the cell connection to get books on crazy. That's amazing. blackberry 22 years I thought it was around a lot more than that. But

Brian Schulmeister 27:45
that this seems super Yeah. The fact that a blackberry was only around for two years longer than an iPod doesn't feel right to me. But yeah, you know, I'm sure that this list I'm sure all the articles on on this page all make sense. And they're all written perfectly and correct.

Jason DeFillippo 28:00
Yeah. And because here's the other one. TiVo is as old as the Blackberry, which does not that timeline does not jive and palmpilot 24. And then Palm Pilot, I

Brian Schulmeister 28:11
feel like I feel like a Palm Pilot was around for a decade before and I know

Jason DeFillippo 28:15
it's only four years. But here's the other one that here's the one that's the head scratcher DVD is only 25 years old. Yeah, nuts. Macs are 37 Nintendo NES or 38 Sony Walkman. 42 years old. I actually thought that was I guess that does kind of Yeah, I was about that was seven years old when I got my first Walkman. So that timeline works. I guess I got I got one when they came out. VCR 46 years old.

Brian Schulmeister 28:42
Wow. And wow, I'm as old as a VCR.

Jason DeFillippo 28:45
Yeah, I was three when we got our when I could have gotten our first VCR. The Polaroid camera is 74 years old. So I'll walk down memory lane.

Brian Schulmeister 28:56
There you go. new gadgets, the Amazon Echo show 10 which was announced an awful long time ago. And I got kind of excited about because I thought that would get one and then I bookmarked it. And then it never came out and never came out and never came out and never came out. And apparently now it's out. But I've read the reviews on it. And it's basically you can spend like 150 extra dollars to get a rotating screen that kind of follows you around. But the software isn't really quite there yet. And it's a bit glitchy. And it does sort of do 360 but at some point, it will just decide to turn itself all the way around to follow you the other way in the middle of a call. And you're better off just having an eight or by a by a $2 Lazy Susan. Exactly spin it you're soon and there's a site that's been doing the rounds radio dot garden. So one of the things that I do love about the echo is the ability with sites like tune in and things like that to basically listen to any radio station anywhere in the world at any time. The problem with all these ladies in the tube devices of course is discovery. Now radio dot garden is A great website where you can basically just click around a map of the world and find any radio station anywhere. It's pretty awesome. It is so cool to just listen to it there. But yeah, you know that I basically just use it to find a cool radio station and then tell echo to play it. So

Jason DeFillippo 30:14
yeah, it is really neat. I I've spent quite some time messing around with that one. That was really fun.

Brian Schulmeister 30:20
Yeah, it's really cool. So I recommend people check it out. Because the only way that I discovered kk CR, which is a community radio, which plays some awesome, it's a community radio station. So you get news, and you get regular music and all that too. But they obviously do a lot of spending spend a lot of time playing Hawaiian music, which is nice and relaxing. See, there's no discovery with ladies in the tube. The only reason I found that out is it misheard me say play KC rw. And it played kk CR right at one time. So that was like, the best and I've been listened to it all the time. But this lets you find anything anywhere. So check it out.

Jason DeFillippo 30:53
Ah, serendipitous discovery. I remember those days. Mm hmm. Yeah, I found this site called chip tone, which is kind of a cool little mixer to make sound effects. And everything's royalty free that you make on it. If you need to make some beeps and beeps and bops. This is a cool little site that does it. It used to be made in Flash. But this person, which apparently is smarter than a Chinese railroad railroad, has figured out how to make it an html5 html5 instead. Very cool. There's some downloadable versions too. But check it out. If you can do some really, I mean, I can't believe it's written in html5, it works really well for what it is. I can't

Brian Schulmeister 31:31
believe we're still only on HTML five. Why aren't we on HTML six or seven by now?

Jason DeFillippo 31:35
Do you know how long it took to get from four to five? Yes, I do. I remember, but we're gonna be dead before HTML six. We're gonna be long dead, because now there's nobody caring about HTML anymore. like five is good enough. I get. Yeah. And the citizen app will now tell you when helicopters are flying overhead, or what they are going to do. I mean, this, I can only see this being useful in Los Angeles, because we have helicopters overhead 24 hours a day, seven days a week. And you're always like, I mean, I I can tell from being inside the house, what agency it's from what brand it is. And some of the time I can actually tell you which helicopters flying overhead because I know this sounds so well, especially the there's one really nice Sikorsky sky crane that they use for putting out fires, it's always flying over. I'm like God shows up there. Because I did the research on the helicopter and found that the company that owns it, and the guys that fly it at one point when the fires were really crazy here. But now now you can launch your citizen app, and it will tell you Do you still use the citizen app? Brian?

Brian Schulmeister 32:35
I was about to say I will never know about this because I've been meaning to delete the citizen app for a long time because it's gotten increasingly useless at first it was just like, okay, I would get notification if something happened within two or three miles of me all the notifications I'm getting are national or or they're like all of Los Angeles. The they were way over notifying you can't dial back down anything. So the final straw for me was the other day when citizen decided to give me breaking alerts on my watch about Lady Gaga dogs

Jason DeFillippo 33:06
fucking cry.

Brian Schulmeister 33:06
This is not what I got the fucking citizen app for. for local stuff that was going on. I do not need an alert on my watch that lady gaga has dogs were fucking stolen. So I deleted it with extreme prejudice.

Jason DeFillippo 33:20
Yeah, I got rid of it a long time ago for that very same reason. That's like, you know, a, you know what I want your app to do. If there's nothing going on in my neighborhood. Be silent, nothing be absolutely silent thing. Yeah, it's like, I don't care if something is going on in Compton or El Segundo, because I'm never going back to Compton or El Segundo.

Brian Schulmeister 33:40
So why are you telling me you know, with no engagement, there is no money. Jason. I know. I gotta get those clicks. I

Jason DeFillippo 33:47
don't understand. I don't make money anyway. So what what's the what's the matter? And they should want me not checking it all the time and paying for their data. Like, leave me alone? Yes. Oh,

Brian Schulmeister 33:58
my God world is working correctly. If I do not get notifications?

Jason DeFillippo 34:01
Yeah, seriously. And when I do get a notification, it better be juicy. Because it might be you know, pandemic time. There was one that was like an El torito. up the street. There was a 25 person fistfight one night in lockdown. And I'm like, okay, there's a story here that I want to hear a Why are people inside of El torito? Be? Why are there 25 of them? See, why are they having a fist fight? I want to know all of these things. It told me none of those. So yeah, the follow up sucks. And I'm going to save this one for next week. Because some people can get a chance to download it and maybe get an invite, which I don't have. This is the dispo app. That's now worth $200 million, which is basically Instagram where you have to wait till the next day to see your photos because they're trying to make it like the old school disposable cameras. I signed up I am on the list but I have not gotten in yet. But once I get in We will we will talk about this app or if anybody has gotten in and wants to send me an invite, you know where to find me pretty please, pretty pleased. And I found this through one of the shows I was working on, it is called a Okay, this is quite possibly the coolest travel site I've ever seen. And I wish this was around when I actually was young had disposable cash, no dogs, and could leave the country whenever I wanted. Because what you do is, you put in how much money you have, how long you want to go for, and it will give you choices where everywhere in the world that you can go for that amount of money for that amount of time. So I put in, I've got $2,000 I want to leave for six days. What can you get me and I can apparently go stay in a very nice hotel in Moscow with round trip flights for under $2,000 right now for six days. Now the downside is for them, they list they give you the list of the hotel the airline which then you can go to your travel site of choice and just book it yourself. You don't have to book it through them. The other downside was for me to get to Moscow, I have to fly Turkish Airlines. And no, sorry. Not flying Turkish Airlines.

Brian Schulmeister 36:20
our listeners in Turkey.

Jason DeFillippo 36:22
Oh, yeah, sorry, guys. I've got you great people great food. I'm not flying your airline, specially to Moscow. And this has just been released in drone news that DJI FPV is out. This is a 13 $100 drone with a controller a headset. And that's about it. You don't have to plug your phone into it because everything is done through the goggles. It's FPV stands for first person video. So you fly this by looking through it. It is so damn cool. This is the drone I always wanted I got one of these headsets to go with my Mavic to zoom in. It's just it didn't really give that good that feeling for me because the Mavic to zoom is like driving a semi truck. It's big, fat and heavy and isn't like a sports drone as much as this one. This one will go from zero to 100 kilometers an hour in two seconds. If you're not puking by the time you fly that for a few minutes, you're doing it wrong. And they've even got hand controls now. So you don't need to use the joysticks, you can actually wave your hand around with a stick and like fly it that way. It looks so cool. I want one but it's 13 $100 so I'm not getting one this week. So my birthday is coming up soon slash GG. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, God, that's your slash donate. Please, please, please. And speaking of things that you look through, I do have to do a quick follow up here. My my Oculus quest quest is at an end. Okay, I finally found someone in the great country of India to finally help me out. And I my deep my quest has been restored. My purchases have been restored. So this weekend, I will finally be playing the Star Wars Darth Vader game. So finally, I've heard it's very good. I bought all three parts. This is why I was so pissed off that I couldn't get to them. I'm like, I'm not gonna pay another 60 bucks. So I can play a game I already bought, like given Zuckerberg any more money than I have to Damn it. And it only took two and a half months for them to get back to me. That's customer service.

Brian Schulmeister 38:20
Wow. Hmm. Awesome.

Robert Fogarty 38:22
At the Library.

Brian Schulmeister 38:30
So I read something kind of out of my normal wheelhouse, which is really nice. I read a book called Saigon a misfits memoir of great books, punk rock and the fight to fit in by fluke Tran memoir kid about my age Exactly. grew up in a small town, smart kid, first generation immigrants. You know, all those issues, small town Vietnamese, lots of issues. smart kid did well in school, torn between, you know, kind of being a punk rock kid and being a smart kid. It was great. I really enjoyed it. He ended up being pursuing both of his interests, both art and literature. And he ended up being a teacher and tattoo artist. How cool is that?

Jason DeFillippo 39:07
That's very cool. What I enjoyed this book,

Brian Schulmeister 39:10
I think you would I think you really would. Alright,

Jason DeFillippo 39:12
I will pick it up then. Because it's I read the description before we went to air and I'm like, Oh, this sounds like it might be might be pretty good for somebody like me. I'll check it out. Yeah,

Brian Schulmeister 39:23
I think it more closely mirrors your your childhood than mine. Because I was not in the small town.

Jason DeFillippo 39:30
No, I was in every town ticket. Yep. And I found this Stephen Fry posted a video on Twitter the other day, talking about subtitles in children. And I thought of you with this. And I don't know if you do this already, but it's for turn on the subtitles. org is a great little video that says that. Kids have a much higher chance of becoming good at reading if you just turn on the subtitles because it's there in front of them. And it's kind of like you know, they learn reading by osmosis because it's just there in front of them. I thought that was a great little hack. Do you guys have subtitles on?

Brian Schulmeister 40:04
I think we've even talked about this on the show, like probably about two years ago or so that I was doing this. So yeah, yeah, definitely. As soon as, as soon as we started doing letter recognition with the kid subtitles went on, and it does seem to help. Yeah, I mean, he definitely does pay attention. So, yep, had him on forever. And it's gotten to the point where, basically, we just never even turned them off, even when it's not kids programming anymore. Because, you know, we're all add now and even when I'm watching a show, I'm wandering around the room, so it helps to be able to just look over and read.

Jason DeFillippo 40:34
No, it's great. We keep them on all the time, too. The only time we ever turned them off is if we're watching stand up comedy, because you can't have one for stand up comedy. Right. And this one came through this morning and I thought it was really I gotta call my dad on this one. Because this is six Dr. Seuss books won't be published any more any more because they portray people in hurtful and wrong ways. So the books that are going to be pulled are and to think that I saw it on Mulberry Street. If I ran the zoo, Mughelli its pool on beyond a zebra scrambled eggs super in the cat's quiser. So all of these books are being discontinued by the Dr. Seuss estate,

Brian Schulmeister 41:12
but you can bid on the NTFS to them now.

Jason DeFillippo 41:14

Brian Schulmeister 41:16
There will be one copy.

Jason DeFillippo 41:20
Oh my god. Yeah, I gotta find out what the deal is on these and if I can get like cases of them out of the back of the warehouse before they

Brian Schulmeister 41:28
go. Yeah, no, no generator, like original artwork.

Jason DeFillippo 41:33
Yeah, I think this might be my retirement plan. Okay, the show's over. I gotta go call my dad.

Robert Fogarty 41:42
Security? Hah!

Jason DeFillippo 41:46
We are joined again this week by Dave Bittner. Dave is the host of the cyber wire podcast and also the co host of the social engineering podcast hacking humans with Joe Kerrigan, as well as the co host of caveat with Ben yelin, where they discuss law and policy as well as surveillance and privacy. How are those long locks doing Dave? You're looking more and more Danzig every day?

Dave Bittner 42:07
I know, I'd say it's, it's actually been right about a year. It's actually been over a year since I had my last haircut. I got my haircut before RSA last year. And I started seeing RSA is the big security conference in San Francisco. And I started seeing pictures popping up a year ago today was RSA and that I think that was the last time I got a haircut was for that event. So let me tell you, I've never had hair this long before. I'm kind of digging it. It looks good on you. I

Jason DeFillippo 42:38
gotta say it does look good on you.

Dave Bittner 42:40
Well, thank you I appreciate that. I have new appreciation for all of my lady friends who have complained over the years how long it takes to dry Yes. Most of my life I get dirty both dry and comb my hair with a towel you know. And I've I've become accustomed to just having hair in my face and in my eyes like I'm moody like I never thought I would before.

Jason DeFillippo 43:08
Yeah. Dave Bittner

Dave Bittner 43:11
I have started experiment experimenting with volumizing products and a blow dryer.

Brian Schulmeister 43:17
I was about to say you must enter the world of product.

Jason DeFillippo 43:20
Yeah, that was going to say check out Moroccan oil. That's the the shampoo and conditioner I use when my hair was longer and it's it smells beautiful. And it will do your hair right Moroccan oil. Right? I'm writing I'm writing that down and the podcast

Brian Schulmeister 43:35
is taken a new direction Moroccan

Dave Bittner 43:38
oil. And yeah, my well see the thing my challenge here is that both my hair and my skin are naturally oily. So I have gone to using a soft foofy kind of shampoo specifically for oily hair. Again, trying so that I don't end up by the end of the day having stringy greasy looking hair. And it helps so here's that

Jason DeFillippo 44:01
here's how you mitigate that you buy a leather jacket and then you can be aggressive

Dave Bittner 44:07
so people yeah, that's like the old joke about how no one notices my glass eye because they're too busy looking at my to pay so

Jason DeFillippo 44:15

Dave Bittner 44:19
But But Brian Yes, I would love you You have a wonderful verticality to your hair and it's something that I something that I envy in your look and I wonder how I might get my hair to to defy gravity the way that you do. It's something that I am jealous of that you're able to do there. Is there a product secret there?

Brian Schulmeister 44:40
No. Well, I suppose Aqua net years and years and years Aqua net when I was a teenager the doing the Robert Smith in the back combing as I trained my hair to get as far away from my scalp as possible. So it's just years of doing it. That is my hair just kind of sticks up until it's so long. that falls in my face. And okay, that is my secret ladies.

Dave Bittner 45:06
No, I I suspect there may be a volumizing mousse in my future. But if anybody of any of our listeners have tips, I'd love to hear them because I don't know I I keep saying I'm going to get my hair cut when i when i get vaccinated, that's when I'm going to go and get a haircut and when I go to have to go back to my Barber, you know, and give her $100 tip or something because I have not seen her in a year.


but you see, I don't know I'm kind of digging the long hair. Wait, it's a great excuse to do something I'd never done before. And it does. It feels nice on my back to to kind of toss it around sort of tickles my shoulders.

Jason DeFillippo 45:51
When I had it, it was nice but everybody's just like yeah, it's gotta go it didn't did not work well with me but I grew mine out for like two years and wow. Yeah, it was when it you know when it's much longer on the sides than it is on the top? you kind of got that Riff Raff look going and it's Yeah,

Dave Bittner 46:11
it's not that you know, that is my deepest fear is that I'm gonna look in the mirror one day and I'm gonna see ron jeremy staring back at me. You know, like old that old guy. You know receding hairline growing my hair long ridiculous look. What I'm going for

Brian Schulmeister 46:29
ponytail in the back and shining dome in the front. It's always a very good look.

Dave Bittner 46:33
Yeah, yeah. So I need to be I need to be self aware on that. But I'm I am the best person in the world at fooling myself so

Jason DeFillippo 46:41
and no man been no man been. No, no, no, no man buttons, please. Not even ironically, as a joke, cuz you might like it. And then daddy's on once. Yeah, not even what it's like, I think of a man bun is heroin. You just don't even want to do it once.

Dave Bittner 46:57
No, no, no, it's not everybody who sets out to you know, to who tried a man bun thought to themselves. I'll just try this once. And now they

Jason DeFillippo 47:05
live in Seattle and serve coffee. So right. You

know, you don't want them to

you and your children and your wife. It's that would be irresponsible of you. No, no.

Brian Schulmeister 47:14
All right. Well, in addition to your perplexing problems with having to choose a product, Dave, there's another there's another Crossroads that we find ourselves at right now. There will be no more live action star wars for quite some time. So so we have a decision to make here. We have to decide if we're going to delve into the animated worlds or not because Star Wars The bad batch will be debuting on Disney plus on May 4. This is an animated series following a group of elite clones called the bad batch, who first appeared in Star Wars, the Clone Wars. Each of these clones has a singular exceptional skill that makes them extraordinarily effective soldiers and a formidable crew, according to Disney. So we have to decide Are we going to delve into handmade Star Wars. Obviously, it would probably be helpful to have watched the Clone Wars before watching this. So there's quite a lot in front of us. Should we choose to go that direction?

Dave Bittner 48:09
Yeah, yeah, I did watch. What was the one with the what's the more recent animated one with the little the little angry are two D two droid.

Jason DeFillippo 48:18
Vox force five.

Dave Bittner 48:20
No, no, no, no. The one with the teenage boy who? Who's like a Jedi. Who's coos has Jedi skills and oh, gosh, what's the name of it? People are yelling at their podcast players, right?

Brian Schulmeister 48:33
Yeah, I'm not sure.

Dave Bittner 48:34
There's one of the most recent animated ones. And I watched a couple seasons of that. And it was quite good. It was quite good. I didn't stick with it because my son didn't stick with it. But I'll give this a try. Why not? Yeah. Okay. Now I got anything else to do with my free time.

Jason DeFillippo 48:52
sitting at home with your hair, do those 100 strokes a night in front of the TV?

Dave Bittner 48:58
That's right. One division is about to wrap up. So I think it's time for me to watch something else.

Jason DeFillippo 49:02
How is that? I could not get into that.

Dave Bittner 49:06
Yeah, it takes the getting into it takes way too long. They overplayed their hand I think with the first few episodes, but once you get past I think that once you get to Episode Four, it really kicks into gear and it's been a lot of fun since then, so if you can, if you can make it that far. I know I know way to sell it right Dave? You can make it that far. It will pay off and I am enjoying it. I think there's only one episode left now but he does get in a lot better.

Brian Schulmeister 49:39
But I think I understand that. I mean, I always use my example of the Stephen King series. You know the Dark Tower which you have to read The Gunslinger first, which is the shortest and the first book but it is god awful.

Jason DeFillippo 49:50
interminable if that's the shortest book, Jesus.

Brian Schulmeister 49:54
And yeah, but once you get past that, it's awesome.

Dave Bittner 50:00
Yeah, I think also like one division points to how and I think Mandalorian was this way to that. And even shows like Breaking Bad, where we have these TV shows that are doing highly cinematic things in ways that TV shows weren't able to do before. And they're really pulling it off, they have the access to the types of special effects that wouldn't have been able to have before. because everything's in HD, they can do the type of types of cinematography that they wouldn't have been able to do before. So I like it. It's a it's really interesting storytelling. So I've been enjoying one division, I'd recommend it but yeah, it's it is a bit of a slog. Getting through the first three episodes, I

Jason DeFillippo 50:40
think. Alrighty, Alrighty. Well, we do have a little bit of follow up on the Facebook privacy lawsuit. This is the one about the biometrics and living in people living in Illinois. And I am happy about this, because I lived in Illinois when this was going on. And I did have a Facebook account. So this is a $650 million settlement. And this is one where the judge came back and said, Yeah, now the 550 million not enough, we want a little more. So they are aiming to put at least $345 into the hands of every class member interested in being compensated. Well, that would be me. I would like to be compensated. So signing up for this one. So if I get it or not, that'll be interesting, because I don't live in Illinois anymore, so I can't prove anything. And when I moved to California, they absconded with my Illinois driver's license. So I don't know how I'm going to prove that I was there. I don't think I have bills anymore. But we'll see. We'll see how this goes. I do my damnedest. I'm going to do my damnedest for that $345 No, it's like

Dave Bittner 51:51
playing Monopoly and pulling the right Community Chest card, you know, the $145 in your favor. Mm hmm.

Brian Schulmeister 51:59
And like I say, I always say it's, it is our duty to sign up for any class action lawsuit that we can possibly be involved in, because it is the only punishment these companies get.

Jason DeFillippo 52:09
Yep. And if you don't use it, you lose it. For sure.

Dave Bittner 52:12
345 bucks isn't.

Brian Schulmeister 52:14
That's that's.

That's much better.

I usually get

Dave Bittner 52:20
a free month of Netflix or something. Yeah, that's great. No, this

Jason DeFillippo 52:24
is like almost

Dave Bittner 52:26
something. Right? Buy yourself a new microphone because that's what you need.

Jason DeFillippo 52:31
Oh, yeah. Great. One mouth 400 microphones perfect. Basically, My show is gonna look like one of those press conferences at the White House at some point because I'm just gonna have this you know, this giant microphone. What are they used to get like a microphone bouquet? microphone. Okay. This was making the rounds and I thought it was would be fun for us to just throw in here the Tom Cruise deep fakes on tik tok? Have you guys gotten to see any of these?

Brian Schulmeister 53:01
I have. The question I guess I have for is Tom Cruise feels somewhat unhuman anyways, and somewhat uncanny valley to me. So is it have the deep fakes gotten better, that just pick a shitty target.

Jason DeFillippo 53:16
They looked really good. And this guy I think, is really kind of Tom Cruise. He is. He's definitely too tall. But it worked. I thought they were really, really good. And here's the weird thing about deep fakes. Now, we watched so many of them. I was watching this series on epics the other day called by any means necessary. It's kind of like the Malcolm X story. from back in the day, it's like the same one that they were the godfather of Harlem. They took that and they did the backstory in a documentary. And they were showing all of this footage of just Yeah, like Kennedy, and all of the, you know, the civil rights leaders and things like that back then. And I'm watching this going. This looks like Forrest Gump. I don't know if it's real or not. I can't tell anymore. The difference between historical footage and fake historical footage. And I feel like I'm going to be watching videos nowadays. And I'm not going to be able to tell if they're real because deep fakes are getting that good. And it's just kind of a it screws with your head.

Dave Bittner 54:16
So have you seen the thing from my The thing where Yeah, animating the zero pictures? Yeah, yeah,

Jason DeFillippo 54:23
that seemed kind of low rent, compared to a lot of the stuff that we've seen that we've even talked about on this show. It's like, okay, you know, that's just like, okay, they find the eyes, they find the pieces and then they just kind of shuffle a little, you know, but I think

Dave Bittner 54:38
to me, that's like the point I think I said on Twitter. It's like the portraits in the Harry Potter series. Yeah. And I imagine we're heading towards a time when we will have or we will have the option of having portraits in our home where we can have, you know, every time you walk past the picture of your grandmother, she smiles a little bit and nods her head and and watches you walk. By

Jason DeFillippo 55:00
15 years ago, I proposed this for graveyards, I wanted this in graveyard so when you walk through a graveyard at night, all the people that are on the on the tombstones would watch you walk through the graveyard. That's what I wanted. I wanted to build that as a product, I wanted to have cameras and LCDs on every tombstone. So you can see everybody in at night, everything turned green. And then you can walk through the graveyard and have everybody that was buried there, watch you, I thought that would be the coolest thing. And we're getting close.

Dave Bittner 55:31
You know, a dear friend of mine made the point that with this sort of thing, like, there are some people that we'd like to have stayed dead. You know, like, like, you can imagine people who've lived through trauma with family members and things like that, where they don't want to see that person reanimated. You know, realistically like that could

Jason DeFillippo 55:53
really that's true.

Dave Bittner 55:55
So, yeah, I mean, I think that's a with all these things right? With great power comes great responsibility and all that and there's a there's a downside to any of this. But that was a side of this I hadn't really thought about and I think it's something good to consider that before you just go around and and re animate your entire family, your entire family tree from ancestry. And you might want to check with some folks that could be family members to see how they all feel about that.

Jason DeFillippo 56:22
Nobody wants a cutie cute baby Hitler reemerging and everybody goes Oh, look at your little baby. Oh, that's Hitler. Oh my god me. Dammit. It's like It's like the worst rickroll ever.

Brian Schulmeister 56:32
Oh man. You've seen people don't want that because I already bought the NF T for that.

Jason DeFillippo 56:37
Nice. Only cost $17 million.

Brian Schulmeister 56:42
Just throw my money away Bitcoin and ft Hitler's

Jason DeFillippo 56:48
title and we might get canceled though. So you can't do that?

Dave Bittner 56:53
Can't do you think you think you think Hitler's in any filters for for flagging words? That would be I put a story in here that I thought was interesting. This from wired. And it's about Microsoft at their ignite conference. They announced they're doing a public preview of their Azure Active Directory verifiable credentials. And I I'm just I'm curious what you guys think about this sort of thing. I have my own thoughts. But I want to hear yours first. This is basically you could have an electronic version, something similar to Apple Pay or Google pay. But for ID yourself. So imagine you walk up to the bouncer at the bar. And instead of showing them your ID, you would hold your phone up to something that would go bloop and say, Yep, this is this person. And, and you go, I guess it would have a photo on it too. So that they could check it was actually you or whatever, who knows what the details are. But and you could use this for all sorts of things, you need to verify that you actually had a degree and the thing that you had a degree in what's one of the other interesting things about what Microsoft is doing here is that they're trying to lead the way so that we don't end up with a whole bunch of different standards for this. This story talks about how MasterCard has a standard they're trying to put forward.

Brian Schulmeister 58:17
Well, I mean, I've been wondering for years ever since you know, the advent of the smartphone, why do I have to have a driver's license on me anymore? particularly after you know, Apple Pay has been introduced? Like why do I need anything other than this device that I'm carrying with me to handle all of this stuff? And isn't this not the idea? I don't know if it's going to happen, because nothing with our Coronavirus responses really happened very well. But wasn't the idea that we would be getting a digital vaccination card that we would be able to show and things of that nature I I'm all for this. And I do think that, you know, we need to, we need some sort of secure system for it. And that that becomes the rub. The thing that gave me pause was, as you put this in the show notes, just yesterday, I'm working with a company that's an all Microsoft shop, and I had to they had requested that everybody switch over to using two FA for logins and things of that nature. And a process that should have taken me 35 to 40 seconds with Microsoft's authenticator app took me about 45 minutes and multiple phone calls verifying my identity. They maybe they need some work on this system first. Yes, it was not easy, and there were a lot of mistakes. And it was very confusing. And it was confusing to me who is relatively experts at these sorts. Right.

Dave Bittner 59:43
Right. Jason, what do you think?

Jason DeFillippo 59:45
I am glad you put this in here because I'd read the article and I was going to put it in here but I saw you'd already gotten to it. So I am very interested in this topic. And I like how they're doing it as kind of a like an arbiter of information. It's like okay, I need Show this guy just did. I am 21 years old. So I am going to get a token that they can verify that I am 21 years old. And it's a third, you know, like an arm's length transaction. They don't need to see my my actual birth date, they just need to know that I'm 21 years old. And so they get my token. And it verifies that I'm 21 years old there go I go drink. Do you know, right steam seems like a great idea. And I like it with the, with what the UK is doing with the National Health Service, because that has apparently been a problem where people can't get their credentials fast enough so they can actually get to work being, you know, first responders, which is seems like a pretty simple thing that you would be able to do nowadays. Yes, I know CPR staying alive. doot doot. doot. Yep, I got it. I'm in Let me go. Nope. Take a couple months. So they've they've actually helped do that at this point. So that is that's shown proof of concept. Yeah. So I like that part. And what

Brian Schulmeister 1:00:56
I don't like about it is it almost and I know this is a silly thing not to like because I've just never liked I've never liked gamification, but it feels like I'm just going to be collecting badges. I got my 21 and older badge. I got my vaccinated badge.

Dave Bittner 1:01:11
Whoo. Hmm. bachelor's degree?

Jason DeFillippo 1:01:16
I don't know. I just see it. Yeah, I see it as just a way to make the process like take the friction out of the process of saying, I need this information, boom. And it's like, Okay, did you live at this place? Yes, or no things like that. It's just, you know, you can put the history to it, but you don't have to give them all of the information that they possibly need. But

Brian Schulmeister 1:01:39
one thing that I think really needs to be an important part of this whole process is what what happens when everything goes wrong? What are the backup procedures? I mean, we've all we've all heard stories from friends or ourselves of nightmares that happen if you, you gave away your phone without backing up your authentication app or something like that. And you've lost all that information or somebody steals your phone or whatever. The backup procedures and the verification procedures need to be clearly outlined.

Jason DeFillippo 1:02:08
Oh, yeah, I'm terrified to get rid of my phone because I know Dave, you've got you switched phones. And how long did it take you to get all your two FA stuff back in in check?

Dave Bittner 1:02:16
I'm still not back on Discord. Yeah.

Brian Schulmeister 1:02:20
I was wondering, you've been tagged coin off.

Dave Bittner 1:02:23
I mean, I can't I can't get it. I just it's it's my I have I have not, because I know I'm in for the thing that you just went through Brian. That's why I just haven't chosen to fight that fight yet. You know, I? The thing about to FA is, it's great when it works. And when it doesn't, it is miserable. It is miserable. Yeah. So hopefully the other the other thing that this reminds me of those are those stories that we covered not too long ago about the bars who were sharing information, they would scan your driver's license, they either use the barcode or actually scan the driver's license, and then they were sharing information among them. This would help cut down on that, which I think is a good thing.

Jason DeFillippo 1:03:06
Yeah. Right. Because you don't have like a unique ID that is transmissible between establishments. Right? A thing, right? Oh, yeah.

Dave Bittner 1:03:13
All all it says is, as you said, Jason, this person is eligible to come in this establishment and enjoy a lovely beverage.

Jason DeFillippo 1:03:20
Yep, that's all they need to know. That's all they need to know.

Brian Schulmeister 1:03:23
What is this thing in which you go into an establishment and have a beverage? Yeah.

Jason DeFillippo 1:03:33
I like it. I'm a fan. I'm a fan.

Dave Bittner 1:03:36
Good. All right. Well, we'll see how it plays out. I think, hopefully, it'll get some traction. And we will see right time will tell. I put a couple other things in here. One was just a quick reference to a link. The folks at buzzsprout got hit by DDoS, which is a distributed denial of service. And they just they wrote up a really nice post mortem that just lays out exactly what happened, how they went about mitigating it. And I share it here in case we have any listeners who are interested in learning a little more about the technical parts of this the the mitigation parts of this is a really nice example of how you lay out one of these things to explain disclosure of Hey, we got hit by this. This is what we did. This is what we know this is what we don't know. A nice little opportunity to learn about how these things work.

Jason DeFillippo 1:04:25
Very cool. Very cool.

Dave Bittner 1:04:26
And then the last thing in here is a link to a listing a home listing in Omaha, Nebraska that I think we should start the Kickstarter funding for now for the new grumpy old geeks headquarters. I don't know if you guys check this out. But Oh, yes. If there's ever a rock and roll home, this is a rock and roll home. Am I right? Oh,

Brian Schulmeister 1:04:49
I finally found something that would make me move to Omaha.

Jason DeFillippo 1:04:56
It's I'm on the fence with the whole moving to Omaha But if I lived here, I would never have to leave. So it doesn't matter if I'm in Omaha because this place is ridiculous.

Brian Schulmeister 1:05:06
This would have been the ultimate pandemic home. Yeah, if I was on Airbnb a couple months ago,

Dave Bittner 1:05:14
I saw it and folks if you haven't seen it This home is it's like you're living in a Hard Rock Cafe.

Jason DeFillippo 1:05:20
Yeah, or not like you are.

Dave Bittner 1:05:25
Someone on Twitter commented that I've never seen a home that screams divorce as much as this homes. Let's just say all of the decorating impulses are on the masculine side with the Yeah, my favorite Anyone else?

Jason DeFillippo 1:05:40
No, my favorite has to be the martini glass sink. That is that is quite quite the baller sink there. I would remove the ping pong table because it does not match for For starters, the color palette they picked. They picked a blue ping pong table in this obviously, you know, brown black and white home which looks beautiful. And I hate it. But the rest of it. Yeah,

Brian Schulmeister 1:06:08
I do love the screams divorce comment. And actually, it was making me think that this, this doesn't so much remind me as a home as this does kind of remind me of like the first internet boom. These were the hypotheses. Perhaps this was perhaps this was reply alls headquarters before it just went to.

Before it went sideways

Dave Bittner 1:06:28
my favorite thing was the guitar case table.

Jason DeFillippo 1:06:31
I knew I liked that too. I liked that one. Yeah. That was

Dave Bittner 1:06:37
a nice original touch.

Brian Schulmeister 1:06:39
Yeah, there is so much that is there here to love. If we could just we could deconstruct this for hours, actually, and start making some very good jokes about his device.

Dave Bittner 1:06:50
How did how did it end up in Omaha, Nebraska?

Jason DeFillippo 1:06:54
Because that's the only place you can build this and still afford it. I mean,

Brian Schulmeister 1:06:58
this this would be a you know, $20 million apartment in Los Angeles. It's

Dave Bittner 1:07:04
behind it. Right? Yeah. who built this? Whose folly was this to build this place was? I don't I would love to

Brian Schulmeister 1:07:11
how many divorces we have.

Jason DeFillippo 1:07:15
Yeah, says 80 $400 a month to buy this place.

Brian Schulmeister 1:07:21 slash GOG.

Jason DeFillippo 1:07:22
Exactly. You know, I'm not a fan of Omaha, but I could be, but I could be long as

Dave Bittner 1:07:31
they have high speed internet. That's all you need. Right? Yeah, yep. Yeah. All right. Well, that's all I have for you, gents this week. Take care. And I'll see you guys next time

Jason DeFillippo 1:07:43
in Omaha, Omaha.

Brian Schulmeister 1:07:49
So I thought this was pretty cool. We've talked about animal cruelty and all that and how zoos are kind of outmoded and something we should move beyond. There's a circus in Germany, the circus wrong. Run chaley runs out. I don't know how it's pronounced. They have gone all hologram. No real animals.

Jason DeFillippo 1:08:07
How do they do that? Because holograms don't really exist.

Brian Schulmeister 1:08:11
Well, you know, Tupac is touring. I don't know how it works. Lots of cameras and smoke and things of that nature. The pictures was pretty cool. Like, you can't tell the thing with a hologram is you can never really tell. Like you have to actually be there to know if it's any good or not. Yeah, so it seems cool. I don't know, we'll have to find out. At some point. Maybe you can use your little travel site to get yourself over to Germany to see where the circus is at and go take a look. As soon as we can travel again.

Jason DeFillippo 1:08:39
I was gonna say I don't think they're letting us in. But I'm looking at the picture of the elephant on the front. And it's like, you can see like a bunch of different versions of the elephant around the the circle of the rings. So yeah, not really sure how that's gonna fly. But hey, they're trying something new. They're

Brian Schulmeister 1:08:56

Jason DeFillippo 1:08:57
Is it on the is it on the blockchain? Not yet.

Brian Schulmeister 1:08:59
So and because we always do this and we've we've gone to this Well, many times on this show the German words and I loved this article. hampster cough coronas it there's a German word for your pandemic experience. And there's some really funny stuff in here. So yeah, hamster cough which first emerged during World War Two and began circulating in German media last March means hamster by which is basically when everybody ran out and bought all the fucking toilet paper. I got a word for that. Yeah, so and they've got quite a few in here. They're all very, very funny. So highly recommend checking this out. I am not going to attempt to read half of these things. But they've got great words for just about everything and again, way better than English in terms of describing this last year of hell that we've all lived through.

Jason DeFillippo 1:09:44
Yet How can on a tight doo doo doo, doo? You can't fax this

Brian Schulmeister 1:09:53

good times.

Robert Fogarty 1:09:59
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Jason DeFillippo 1:10:02
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Brian Schulmeister 1:11:17
Well, I actually I did the math on that. And if you had made questionable life decisions or say grew up in a small town I am old enough to be a grandpa.

Jason DeFillippo 1:11:26
Yeah, it wasn't Michaela that on discord that posted the math on that one there. I thought. Yeah. Like, she's like, actually, Brian, let me explain.

Brian Schulmeister 1:11:39
Yeah, over Twitter, Stephen writes in with thoughts and senses a link Mozilla launches total cookie protection with Firefox 86. for Mac. It's their latest privacy feature. And it will be basically the new privacy option will create separate cookie jars for every website you visit to prevent cross site tracking. To which I say How the fuck did they miss branding this as cookie jars?

Jason DeFillippo 1:12:01
Yes, because they branded it as total cookie protection. Yeah, that's just lame. Yeah, they talked about cookie jars and every bit of documentation. But why didn't they call it cookie jars? Cookie jars. I don't know who fucking uses Firefox anymore. Anyway, Jeff writin been on more than one zoom funeral service. It's a shame that funeral homes don't know how to be prepared for families to stream online. The audio and video and internet connections are just horrible. You would think that funeral parlors who have some of the most insane margins in the world would at least know how to like you know, wire up in this day and age. But guess not maybe that's our new consulting gig. Maybe?

Brian Schulmeister 1:12:40
I think they've been dealing more with storage. Yeah, that's true. And that so you know,

Jason DeFillippo 1:12:45
no room for the routers and the cameras?

Brian Schulmeister 1:12:46
That's true. Yes. Right. film, sleep. Repeat writes in wondering what you guys think of fairphone. I love the idea of being able to swap out parts rather than all that waste. That would be great. Does it run any of my iOS software? Because if it doesn't, I don't care?

Jason DeFillippo 1:13:00
Yep, probably not. libertarian is rated. Kelly has rolling brownouts when it quote checks notes gets hot in the summertime. How are you going to compare to Texas and a couple of emojis, eye rolling emojis. Here's the deal. We have been talking about how shitty California is for eight years. Okay, we're not saying that California is better than Texas. We never have and we probably never will. We are getting better here. I didn't get hit by any brownouts this summer, but we have been saying

Brian Schulmeister 1:13:30
forever. I responded on Twitter like we're okay. Apparently all the snowflakes are in Texas with the snowflakes because the Texans got really fucking touchy that we dared to say anything about their state fucking up. We've been saying California has been fucking up for years. So get over it. Move on.

Jason DeFillippo 1:13:50
Yeah, at least we're calling our governor soon. So hey, look, when we're not on fire. We can't turn on the air conditioner when you're the first person Brian did said we were a third world country probably by episode three. So yeah, we've been on the train. Yep.

Brian Schulmeister 1:14:09
Oh, I lost the I lost Vincent roulette. Here we are.

Jason DeFillippo 1:14:14
On show actually you. You won Vincent this week because he only sent us one link.

Yeah. I know. He must have been

Brian Schulmeister 1:14:22
over there. Yeah, Vincent writes in Hey grumps, the feed from Little Ireland is back with some news on facial recognition in schools greeting from the Emerald Isle. And this is it says fair play to the data Commissioner for saying Nope. And this is an article about the data protection commission intervened over schools rather extreme facial recognition plan. Yeah, so there was a 2020 report showing it handled over 10,000 cases last year an increase of 9% compared to 2019. This is Kilkenny secondary school using facial recognition to monitor attendance now pardon my It's been a long time since I've been in school, but whatever happened to fucking taking role? Why do we need face recognition.

Jason DeFillippo 1:15:01
Bueller? Bueller, Bueller.

Brian Schulmeister 1:15:06
So they scrapped the plan because you don't need it.

Jason DeFillippo 1:15:09
It's funny, it sounded like somebody came along with a solution for a problem that they didn't have. And they were just like, oh, a solution. Let's let's look at the solution. And then somebody says, Well, that's a solution for a problem we don't have so moving on. Yeah. And Martin writes in Did you come across morning brew yet? It's a little tailor daily email news summary. I subscribed a couple days ago and kind of like it. One funny little thing he contained today a clubhouse bio generator. Speaking of clubhouse, I listened to a couple of things on it and it can be interesting, but I think in the end it's a huge waste of time. That's probably my biggest issue with it. No curation, some yelling no editing, non experts taking the stage much better to listen to a podcast like yours. Well Martin you nailed that one on the head.

Brian Schulmeister 1:15:52
Yes, we can. You can listen to non experts right here.

Jason DeFillippo 1:15:55
Yes, and I do I do subscribe to the morning brew and I they have a couple other ones they have an emerging tech newsletter that is me hit or miss and get like one story a week out of it. That's decent, but morning brews good. Cool pretty good. Steve writes in Okay, I

Brian Schulmeister 1:16:09
gotta push back on you guys saying the video releasing mining cards is a good thing. In reality most in the gaming community have several issues with it. One since both the binding cards and the gaming cards use the same GPU and GPU that is used for mining card is GPU that is not used for gaming card. Given the global silikon shortage and the premium they will be charging for the mining cards. There are questions if they will, this will exacerbate the already massive GPU shortage to the mining card will have absolutely no resale value, as they will not have any display out so they are useless to gamers once their life is a mining card is over three, the hash rate lock they are putting in the gaming cards as in software drivers and only applies to the aetherium hashing algorithm. And since it is software, how long before someone is able to hack it and remove the lock. Bottom line is no video is trying to sell this as a win for the gamers. When in reality it's more of a cash grab and attempt to kill the second hand GPU market. Okay, fair enough.

Jason DeFillippo 1:17:01
Fair enough.

Brian Schulmeister 1:17:02
Well thought out points.

Jason DeFillippo 1:17:03
Yep. And Jose writes in for those who like Kim's convenience and want to see season five and then to link over to YouTube.

Brian Schulmeister 1:17:10
Very cool. JACK light. wrightson had that in the show notes. Jason I believe you recently recommended a Brian a certain Daft Punk live concert to watch and now Daft Punk has broken up the curse continues. Yeah, I guess that's kind of on us.

Jason DeFillippo 1:17:22
Yep. And just a little, little backstory here. Brian shadowed me. He's like, oh, somebody else's giving credit for something that I did. I'm like, No, actually go back and listen to that one was mine.

Brian Schulmeister 1:17:34
I knew you were gonna point this out. I had to

Jason DeFillippo 1:17:36
I had to,

Brian Schulmeister 1:17:38
well, look, look, what are the chances that you would actually recommend a Daft Punk live concert to me 99.9% of the time, that would be the other way around.

Jason DeFillippo 1:17:47
Right. But it was 100% of the time on this one. So.

Brian Schulmeister 1:17:50
But I was I was on Vincent whiskey level levels at that point.

Jason DeFillippo 1:17:57
Eddie says please stop. You guys were very hard on Texas for not being regulated on their snowflake horrible management on the cold weather event. Just to be fair, California, on the other hand, didn't fare too well on the fires started by the power companies that are highly regulated? Nope. And why take the time to write in and ask us? Do you work for the utilities in Texas? Are you a politician? Because if you're not either of those, you should be pissed off at what happened in Texas? Oh, justice. We are here in California read previous comment that we just said that we've been shitting on our own state forever. If you don't say something and do something, they're gonna keep doing the same thing. And you're gonna get the same result. And we're in the process of kicking out our governor because he's let the state burn down. And you know, my, I don't know about yours. Brian, you haven't been here for very long. You've been up in Canada, but my electric bill is through the roof because we have to pay for all the fires that they started. So anyway, Edie? Sorry, there's a technological solution that could have saved lives in Texas. They chose not to use it. And ask yourself, why aren't you being as hard on them as a couple of fat old white podcasters a couple 1000 miles away are being that's all I'm saying. You know, be as hard on your own people as we are because we're hard on our people too.

Brian Schulmeister 1:19:16
Yep. Yep. Yeah. So get over it Texans. Raph writes in there's a British version of grumpy geeks you guys should listen to them discuss SP ACS specs. specs is a spec. And this is the trash future podcast and they they talk about it in an episode that he is linking to in our show notes. Also, each week they pick a useless product or service and have the other host guess what it does by providing a name and a couple of hints pretty hilarious. And I took a quick look into them and their Patreon do they make 10 times as much as we do? We're doing something wrong, Jason?

Jason DeFillippo 1:19:46
Yes, we are. I think we I think shitting on Texans is probably a bad thing for us because it's a very big state. Maybe we shouldn't do that.

Brian Schulmeister 1:19:53
Alright. He also sent a link to raising the stakes the first 3d printed ribeyes unveiled. Hey, look, Texans took the first shot. This is an Israeli company that has basically 3d printing ribeye steaks using a culture of live animal tissue and what could be a leap forward for lab grown meat once it receives regulatory approval. But there's a lack of regulatory framework for this because it's new so that could basically slow this all down. I would totally okay, why not?

Jason DeFillippo 1:20:23
Why not?

Brian Schulmeister 1:20:23
I'm looking forward to.

Jason DeFillippo 1:20:25
There you have it. Jim, like your show, but don't celebrate an actress getting booted from Hollywood for expressing her thoughts. She has a point about the sliding slope of tyranny don't like on don't like on it's disturbing and hurts your show. I don't think we were celebrating the the, the cancellation of her it was more of a group befuddlement about how she could be so unbelievably stupid to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory in such a spectacular and unnecessary way she was going to be set for life. And she just had to tweet that's the head scratcher here.

Brian Schulmeister 1:21:01
There are learned ways to make points about the sliding slope of tyranny that don't involve comparing fucking Nazis to it's just so stupid. When Yes, we weren't celebrating it. Give me a fucking bro. How do you people are just pissed off about everything right now. Everybody's pissed off at everything I get. And I go, we're all sick of this. I get it. Hi, Linda writes in FM radio hacking just thought I'd pop in and tell you about the one time I stopped by my local pub. local news was about to start so I went to the bathroom. While in the bathroom. I turned on my FM radio transmitter. Which one carries into the bathroom? Apparently yes at the pub, and played the final 20 seconds of grumpy old geeks podcast episode 490. As luck would have it moments before our Prime Minister was about to speak the podcast popped on let's just say that brought the house down. Thanks geeks great show

Jason DeFillippo 1:21:45
I would have loved to have seen that would have been great to have been a fly on the wall for that. And over at iTunes, Millennials surf rated with a four star truly grumpy sometimes concerning. They truly are grumpy and that's a good thing. The topics they cover on the show are always entertaining and thoughtful. Please also keep the Star Wars segment going with Dave, four stars until Brian explains why he hates hot chip. I've listened to the show for years and I still don't know why it's concerning. I really appreciate the content. Thank you. What the hell is he talking about? Brian?

Brian Schulmeister 1:22:18
Hot chip is a band that I probably maybe discussed once on the show six years ago. me Okay, I

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haven't even thought about the band hot chip for five or six years. When this came in. I actually told my lady in the tube to play hot chip. I've never hated hot chip. I think there's one album that I particularly like and the rest of their stuff I just don't care that much for It's fine. It's not top of mind. I demand a recount on this on this star rating. This is this is some bullshit.

Jason DeFillippo 1:22:49
Give us back our star. Tim.

Brian Schulmeister 1:22:52
I don't recall hating, hating hot chip. And if I did, it was a very long time ago. Here's another one. This is great. And so if we add this one star to get a five star Yeah, this is a nice if they stuck to tech, I'd still be listening. I was a loyal fan for five years, obviously through the hardship Haiti as then 2020 hit and seems every other subject revolved around their disdain for the former president. As for the record, I agreed with their stances on most but that's not why I listened to a tech podcast if I wanted that. There's plenty of other political Talking Heads. So I took a break until after the election thinking they would finally leave the political mess behind I was wrong. I look for tech podcasts that actually talk about tech stuff. I may check in down the road and hopefully they'll go back to their roots and talk tech and make it seem like they actually want to be a podcast again. Instead of Brian's nonstop whiny dribble followed up with a loud sniff See ya.

Jason DeFillippo 1:23:47

Brian Schulmeister 1:23:48
Hey, all right, whatever. Yep.

Jason DeFillippo 1:23:51
Rock and Roll.

Brian Schulmeister 1:23:52
I again, I don't understand. I don't understand how you can say that. There's a separation between tech and politics these days. We don't talk about tech in the ways that like, oh, gosh, Adobe is having their fan forum and let's talk about the stupid new updates that they're doing to Photoshop. that's never been the way that we talked about, about tech. We talk we talk about tech, in terms of how it fits into our culture and our lives, which involves politics. Yep, don't like it. That's fine. Go listen to reply all.

Jason DeFillippo 1:24:19
You can't.

Brian Schulmeister 1:24:21
If you want your question or comment right on the show, head over to Gog dot show slash contact and send us your feedback or questions that we can read on the air. And if you're so inclined, please head over to Gog dot show slash review. and toss us a four star review telling me that I don't like a band that you really liked from seven fucking years ago.

Jason DeFillippo 1:24:37
Shout out to Ken w for starring the entire back catalogue on overcast and sending sending us proof. Now if we could just get another 200 or 2000 people to do the same. We might be back in the running. But yeah, I don't know.

Brian Schulmeister 1:24:50
I think the ship has sailed on the overcast ratings. Jason I think he might want to just move I know

Jason DeFillippo 1:24:54
we need if I need a new white whale. That's my problem. It's just and the thing is nobody listens on overcast. anymore. Remember, everybody's on Spotify. If I get no shoutouts nobody deserves anything this week and nobody died. So Screw it. Until next time. I'm Jason DeFillippo. I'll give a shout out to a hot chip.

Brian Schulmeister 1:25:15
I'll give a shout out to hot chip. Yeah. And I'm Brian Gil Meister thanks for listening to grumpy old geeks. If you enjoy the show, please consider visiting. You know hot chips gonna break up next week now right? visiting GG dot show slash donate to help us keep the lights on and will love you forever. Show Notes for this episode are a Gog dot show for 97 To be honest, I don't even know if Jeff is still together. From there you can find all the links we talked about in this episode. You can get links to old episodes donate to the show, leave feedback or ask questions, watch videos from hot ship buy our swag join our discord channel and don't forget to donate to the show. And if you know somebody who has too much hope in their hearts and spring in their step then definitely tell them about the show misery loves company. And don't forget to get your n TF hot chick memorabilia. Stay grumpy

Jason DeFillippo 1:25:56
and it's NFT

Brian Schulmeister 1:25:59
but damn it

I was on a roll man

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