Facebook censorship & playbooks; Kalanick, again; Twitter Spaces; Clubhouse upgrades; Bitcoin’s problems; Uber, Lyft sharing banned driver data; Amazon gamification expands; NiFTy News; crypto-grifters; the Grammys weren’t bad; Pivot; Netflix cracking down on password sharing; iPhone 12 upgrade; HomePod discontinued; FAA drone rules; Cyberweapons Arms Race; deepfakes in suburbia; hacking as a service; anonymized data is bullshit; Zoom Escaper; who wants to be the Technoking?
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IN THE NEWS
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AT THE LIBRARY
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Robert Fogarty 0:02
Grumpy Old Geeks a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFillippo. Discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet. And who's to blame.
Jason DeFillippo 0:16
Welcome to grumpy old geeks. I'm Jason DeFillippo.
Brian Schulmeister 0:19
And I'm Brian Shaw Meister apologies for any noise because you know, we're recording therefore the neighbors decided to trim trees today.
Jason DeFillippo 0:26
Yes, yes. Yesterday I had the Property Brothers outside filming I saw the photo said,
Brian Schulmeister 0:32
Yeah, yeah, they they looked they looked dapper as always.
Jason DeFillippo 0:36
Yeah. Slow as fuck. They've been working on this show. They're like, this guy's getting a kitchen redone. They've been working on for four months.
Brian Schulmeister 0:43
Like even if they're famous contractors. They're still contractors.
Jason DeFillippo 0:45
They're still contractors. That's true. I love it, though. Like as soon as they were done with a scene, they would all applaud. They're like, yeah. So cabinet cabinet. Yeah. Awesome. were awesome. I just hope they finish soon. I really do. The dogs don't like it very much. Yeah.
Brian Schulmeister 1:05
So Ronnie pointed out. Listen to Ronnie that as soon as we started talking about Kim's convenience, it got cancelled. The Gog curse strikes again.
Jason DeFillippo 1:12
Yeah. Oh, well. Oh, well. There's anybody on our hitless that we need to take out this week.
Brian Schulmeister 1:19
Well, I mean that we should Well, hopefully, NF T's are gonna go.
Jason DeFillippo 1:23
Oh, that's true. I mean, it's true. You know,
Brian Schulmeister 1:25
I apparently we have a whole new segment about them. But we'll get to that later.
Unknown Speaker 1:28
Brian Schulmeister 1:31
So I had my first Facebook censorship this week. I got censored for the very first time I tried to share a post from your local epidemiologists page. This Dr. Caitlin jet jet Lena, she's quite popular on the Facebook because she posts a lot. She has a PhD in epidemiology and biostatistics. And she made a post about as I'm sure you've seen by now, CDC published their guidelines for vaccinated people, here are my thoughts and she gets into it. There's nothing extreme, there's nothing crazy. It's basically just the science and her thoughts on the various risk levels of say, hanging out with your when your mom is vaccinated, and you aren't and all of that sort of stuff. No big deal, right? It's been shared, it's been shared at least 4300 times and had over 1500 comments, by the time I shared it. I shared it, it never got posted. And I didn't really think too much about it. Because usually when I'm engaging on social media, it might be a little bit late, and I might have had a little bit of wine, whatever, okay, so maybe just a glitch or whatever. 24 hours later, I got a notification that my post went against community standards, and only I could see it. So I think well, that's bullshit. Obviously, this is this is this is not the fake information that Facebook is supposed to be working against. This is the information. This is what we're supposed to be sharing. So I go through the process of trying to appeal the decision. And at the very end of the process, Facebook tells me, I can't appeal the decision, because during the covid, 19 crisis, they don't have enough staff available. Oh God, so you're basically just shit out of luck. So of course, I immediately reshare the link, and it went through with no problem this time. Okay, there it is. I see it on my page. 24 hours later, I get another message saying your post has gone against the community services. And only you can see the post. And at that point, I just throw my hands up in the air and sit off Fuck it.
Jason DeFillippo 3:26
So you know they've spent some time during the pandemic, they have, they've made a new playbook. Now, this is a playbook that obviously isn't geared toward what your problem is, unfortunately, this is in response to the accusations of polarization. Right. And I love this during a Thursday webinar for employees, Chris Cox, who's like the head honcho over there, and in that department said, there's an here's a new document, and it will equip all of you to go home and have dinner with friends and family and explain why public perceptions of Facebook are wrong.
Brian Schulmeister 4:00
Now, I know that this playbook exists, because I actually have two friends that work at Facebook. And I have seen their public posts on Facebook that basically point by point exactly match this.
Jason DeFillippo 4:15
Really, yeah, huh. That's funny.
Brian Schulmeister 4:18
So you know, I understand why you work for a company that basically the rest of the world has decided is kind of evil, and we don't like anymore. So you want to counter that you want to feel good about the place that you work. So it's nice that they gave you some bullet points that will make you feel good about where you work. Nice.
Jason DeFillippo 4:37
Oh, you know, you might want to think about changing jobs. If you have your own propaganda machine inside of the company to tell you why you should be working for the company. I'm just saying I'm just saying I'm just saying I got a little tech update for the show here. This will for those privacy advocates out there. Since you know overcast And a couple other sites have now started to tell people what is going on with the show downloads, it's like, okay, you're being tracked here, you're being tracked there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We've been using a service called charitable for a very long time. And it's just a third party tracking service. So we can get another set of eyes on the numbers. But when you do that, you have to put a, what we call a pre penned URL, on to our RSS feed mp3 URL, which means it goes to their service first, then they do a redirect to the actual mp3. And nowadays, you can have multiple layers of redirects, we only have one, we only use chargable. But there are other stats out there for podcasting that you can still add ons, I think three layers is the max you're supposed to be able to have, which is still ridiculous,
Brian Schulmeister 5:43
just enough for winter. Yeah.
Jason DeFillippo 5:46
And it's, you know, this stuff, you know, you only need one single point of failure. That's what the essence for so that now you have three points of failure. But this is not the issue. We've gotten a couple emails, well, we got one email, and I've gotten a couple side channel text from people saying that, oh, we use this different ad URL blocking software, what do you know about us? And they're, they're blocking the trouble URL, saying, Oh, no, this is a redirect. And it is it is spanning expand a lot and to track even track a lot tracking MC track face. And they're not letting people get the mp3 is and I'm like, well, that sucks. Since every URL we have is untreatable. I'm sure it's a minor subset of people out there. But in the in the spirit of transparency, just to let everybody know, all we use them for was just so we could get stats on downloads. And if this is actually one of those things, where it we've got a Schrodinger stats issue, we're actually viewing the stats is causing a problem with the actual stats, and the stats are now dead. We've removed it. So there is no more chargeable out there for us so you can sleep well at night, knowing that we are not tracking you even though we weren't tracking you to begin with. And yeah, there you have it. So okay. Just hopefully our numbers will go back up. Because our numbers suck. They do they do.
Unknown Speaker 7:15
In the news.
Jason DeFillippo 7:21
Travis Callen ik our favorite villain is back in the news, Brian? Oh, he
Brian Schulmeister 7:25
didn't just go buy an island somewhere and live a life of luxury.
Jason DeFillippo 7:29
Oh, he's living on the cloud. He started a company called Cloud kitchens.
Brian Schulmeister 7:33
I think we talked about this.
Jason DeFillippo 7:35
Yes, we did. Yes, we did. Well, it turns out douchebag can't change his stripes. So now he's pissed off all of the neighbors of the cloud kitchens, because there's too much traffic and people are coming by and picking up their, you know, their orders too much Uber too much. Lyft and doordash and Postmates and all of the above. Right. So and he's like, fuck him. We'll fix it later. So there
Brian Schulmeister 8:00
you have it. Fair enough. Travis
Unknown Speaker 8:01
Brian Schulmeister 8:02
Travis gonna Travis?
Jason DeFillippo 8:04
Brian Schulmeister 8:04
Yeah, there we go. I found this really interesting article over on TechCrunch. The title is should there be some law against raising three times in one year? And this article discusses a couple different companies that have done multiple rounds of funding in a year just to get money and bilk people that are stupid, including a company called agent sink. Another one called conscious.vc. This is kind of a long form read for TechCrunch. They usually don't do very long articles. But the This one's fairly long. Well worth reading. The TLDR on this. Should there be a law against raising funding three times in one year?
Jason DeFillippo 8:38
Yes. Whoo. Betteridge bed. Yes.
Unknown Speaker 8:41
There should be grave.
Jason DeFillippo 8:44
And actually, yes. Yeah, I read this. It's, yeah, they're basically just fudging the numbers.
Brian Schulmeister 8:50
You'll figure more and more and more money. Yeah.
Jason DeFillippo 8:54
Yeah. And Twitter is coming back in the news with spaces. Spaces.
Brian Schulmeister 9:01
What is a Twitter space?
Jason DeFillippo 9:03
Twitter space is basically a clubhouse ripoff. Okay, so they've, you know, they've already got stories, so why not just rip off somebody else as we go go along here. So now they're going after clubhouse. They got the email newsletter company they just bought? Yeah, Twitter is just kind of they're throwing poop at the wall and seeing what sticks at this point. I don't know if you use the Twitter client on your phone, but I do. And I do have shown up yet show JV join the space yet. Have you seen it?
Brian Schulmeister 9:31
No. Because I don't give a shit.
Jason DeFillippo 9:33
Yeah, that to
Brian Schulmeister 9:37
look at Twitter. Twitter is an interesting company. Yeah. I've always said they have the best PR in the business because everybody talks about talks. You know, in regular media. Nobody will just say in social media, they always say on Twitter, and they go and find things on Twitter. Everybody will not everybody. Very few people actually use Twitter but the people that use Twitter use it a lot. They should have a business model in and of what they do themselves. I don't understand why they don't. Or obviously, they're not happy with the business model that they have. So they have to expand and become everything. I don't get it Twitter. Twitter does what Twitter does, and it doesn't very well. It doesn't need to do with the other these other things.
Jason DeFillippo 10:19
Well, you know, the thing is, they're headless over there, because jack is off running title now. And before that, I mean, he runs square, you know, all these other things. Well, square makes a lot of money title. That's just funny. But you know, Twitter should tweet in twit. And yes, I agree. That's what they should. Do.
Brian Schulmeister 10:39
You know, how we just discussed there should be some sort of law against raising three times in one year, there should be some sort of law that if you're the CEO of a company, you're the CEO of Wii company, not multiple companies. Just run the one you got.
Jason DeFillippo 10:52
Yeah, yeah. Oh, well,
Brian Schulmeister 10:55
yeah. Anyway, speaking of clubhouse, we've talked about their their glaring privacy issues that they launched with, because you know, everybody launches not even so much in beta, it's more gamma at this point. And they just drop it and let you know, we'll figure it out later, is kind of the deal. They've made some updates. Finally, they're inching towards a beta. They no longer require access to your phone contacts to invite people to the platform, you only have to add their phone number directly, which is nice. I suppose. The company chief Paul Davison added that you can ask the company to delete any contacts you've already uploaded. I'm sure that'll go well. Yeah, I'm sure they have tons of customer service people around to respond to that request. And go ahead and get on. Yeah, because all these companies are so good at that. The service is also expanding its basic functionality, including support for link sharing, you know, that whole HTTP thing that started all this sort of stuff, and language filters to limit chats to those in your preferred tongue. Nominations join a club can come from the group itself rather than individuals. And if you've dealt with abuse, there are now more tools to spot it and keep it off the platform. And they are launching a creator boost thing. They're calling it creator first accelerator program that gives producers the resources to bring their projects to fruition. A whopping 20 people will be eligible at first for the initiative.
Jason DeFillippo 12:17
Oh my god. Yeah, I saw this over at the onion and I thought I'd really kind of summed up clubhouse in a nutshell. It's the onions guide to clubhouse and it's just a short q&a. What's the purpose of clubhouse to connect eavesdroppers? With blowhards? Yep, nailed that one. What makes it different from other social media sites? You have to ask for permission to speak before harassing people. also somewhat true. How can I sign up you on clubhouse please? Yeah, it the whole thing is pretty spot on even though it's the onion but you know, and a long enough timeline. If it's in the onion, it will become true.
Brian Schulmeister 12:51
That is true. That is very true.
Jason DeFillippo 12:53
Yeah, clubhouse just turned one, believe it or not. And I love this between spaces and clubhouse. Chris Locke had kind of summed it up. It's like, so we, we fixed a lot of what was wrong with the internet with podcasting because you can go listen to it whenever you want. And clubhouse seems to have redefined appointment programming with webinars with no video. And that's the big deal. It's like this head scratcher. big head scratcher. Oh, oh, this one. This one. I have been down the bit hole, the crypto hole this week. And I saw this one come through. It's called bitcoins greatest feature is also its existential threat. Now, as I've been going down the crypto hole, I've been trying to figure out what is the worst case scenario with Bitcoin and blockchain? What's its Achilles heel? Right. And, you know, I think the actual fact that everything that goes on the blockchain and is in the ledger goes on the blockchain and is in the ledger.
Brian Schulmeister 13:59
That's all I mean, much it. Day one. When we first started talking about the blockchain. I was always like, and I think we discussed this. What if somebody puts a whole bunch of child porn in there? Been there, done that already up there? Yep. Yep.
Jason DeFillippo 14:13
What if in mind is like what if Snowden instead of going to Glenn Greenwald had said, screw it? I'm going to put all these links on the blockchain. What would happen then, in this article over at wired is it's an opinion piece, but it kind of it's like this has to be in the Zeitgeist because there are a lot of articles about this nowadays. A lot of people thinking the same thing I'm thinking it's like, what happens when and this is saying that you know, its greatest feature which is the the ledger on the blockchain could be its greatest threat because what happens in China when somebody starts putting up forbidden texts, do they do they fork it? Does Russia forget do that? We then have, you know, this bifurcated blockchain, possibly, possibly. And, I mean, this goes on top of all the other problems with that. With Bitcoin and Ethereum, as it already stands, but it's like a lot of people are trying to figure out how to I don't know, break it, which is good. But you know, this grand experiment crypto this should have happened to before it became this juggernaut than it already is. So, yeah, this is this is an ongoing story, and we'll talk a little bit more about it shortly, actually. Yeah.
Brian Schulmeister 15:21
Marc Andre wrote in said, Hello, I still haven't listened to the last episode, but I noticed that in 496, and 497, you talked about Bitcoin more than you usually do. Here's an article I have read back in January. That could be interesting to prove your point and this is from crypto dash anonymous stash 2020 one.medium.com and it's called the bit short inside kryptos Doomsday machine so yes, a lot of it is in the air right now that that perhaps the blockchain and Bitcoin aren't so good. And this gets into something called tethers which are in crypto. To simplify a bit tethers are issued by a crypto company called tether limited meaning that if tether limited says you own a tether than you do. Limited also says that that's basically Bitcoin in a nutshell, right? I own a Bitcoin because I say I do. Well,
Jason DeFillippo 16:10
actually, no, that's it that is different because everybody has to you have to have consensus that you have to agree.
Brian Schulmeister 16:15
Yes, it has to be on the ledger that I own this, this bit of Bitcoin, along with this piece of child pornography.
Jason DeFillippo 16:20
Exactly. 51% of the blockchain has to agree that you own that tether is just tether. They just say you have it.
Brian Schulmeister 16:26
Yes, exactly. So they say that one tether is worth exactly one US dollar. Can they do that? Well, they say they can because they hold one dollars worth of assets for each other. But are those assets actual dollars? No, they are not. So what if assets go down in value? Don't worry, they will not. Okay, but can we at least see the assets? No, you may not.
Jason DeFillippo 16:46
Brian Schulmeister 16:48
Did you know this whole article? Well, yeah, I did read the whole thing. There's no, there was no way I could summarize it any better than that. That's that's basically the TLDR right there. But it's frightening. Yeah.
Jason DeFillippo 16:58
Yeah. They're they're being investigated by the Office of the Attorney General for the Southern District of New York, which is
Brian Schulmeister 17:05
which I applaud, but I would like them to focus on on on target number one right now, which is the orange menace. Let's let's keep on that. Yeah, come back to tether later.
Jason DeFillippo 17:15
I don't know this one might actually actually have more damaging consequences to the world because tether is, I mean, honestly, if you read this, you will never buy a Bitcoin or ether ever again. Because it is a house of cards. It is a total House of Cards if this person is to be trusted, and did their research is accurate. Yeah, Uber and Lyft. Back in the news again, they've decided to finally call a truce. And now they are sharing data on drivers that have been banned for sexual or physical assault. Fun. Well, good to God. took so long Come on.
Brian Schulmeister 17:55
Do they need to share this data? Can I? Okay, I guess, okay. Okay. All right. Fair enough. Just banned for sexual physical assault doesn't necessarily imply that they've gone through the legal system, that they exactly charged with it, etc. There. This is just somebody internally, shouldn't they be turning that over to the police? Right, I have so many questions. Jason,
Jason DeFillippo 18:19
we have discussed this on the show. Each company has their own star chamber, where they go through and they figure out the merits of a case whether the police should be called whether the client has called the police. And in most cases, they're going to be at arm's length and say, not our problem, dude, not
Brian Schulmeister 18:36
only we had some sort of societal entity that we had all signed off on that perhaps are tax dollars funded, that maybe was existed purely for this sort of thing. If only
Jason DeFillippo 18:49
Yes, if there was only some some has body that leaves us take care of as the public safety. I don't know who that might be.
Brian Schulmeister 18:58
That's a head scratcher, isn't it? Jason?
Jason DeFillippo 19:00
It is it really is. your tax dollars at work. And I love it. Whoever said it had that in 2018 3045 sexual assault reports in the US the US alone Christ. Yeah, that's, that's a lot. That's like eight a day. Radio day. Sorry.
Brian Schulmeister 19:19
And that was just in the last year when theoretically none of us were fucking taking rideshares No,
Jason DeFillippo 19:24
no, no, no, it's
Brian Schulmeister 19:24
20 1820. Okay, okay. All right. Fair enough. Yeah, well, rape away 2018. Jesus Christ, Barrett writes, and so Amazon is building on their productivity increasing gamification program and this is from the verge Amazon expands gamification program that encourages warehouse employees to work harder from the article it says but the games themselves are not designed to reward employees with tangible real world real world benefits. The report says and are instead ways for Amazon to encourage productive productivity his warehouse work becomes increasingly more tedious and Barrett says I wonder if this will work. And include NF T's.
Jason DeFillippo 20:01
Yes. And I wonder if it will expand to include bathroom breaks. Because, you know, diapers,
Brian Schulmeister 20:08
now you get us, you get a virtual bathroom, but
Jason DeFillippo 20:10
you get a virtual, take a virtual dump. Great. Oh, yeah, they're doing anything they can do it and I can see it you know when that we talked about these games before when they first came out. And it's like, okay, anything to kill the tedium I can understand. But that's not what they're there for. They're there to make you more productivity oriented. And yes, you should work faster. Yes, exactly.
Brian Schulmeister 20:36
I mean, all I can ever think of is the I Love Lucy skate, right? When I think of Amazon warehouses, that's what
Jason DeFillippo 20:41
I Exactly. And Brian, we have a new segment for today. Hopefully, for just today. nifty news. I
Brian Schulmeister 20:50
have to say, I, I saw you throughout the week, put all these stories in there. And I was like, I'm so fucking done with NF T's. I don't care.
Jason DeFillippo 21:00
But it just keeps getting better. That's the okay. That's the whole problem. Because, you know, this is one of those things where it's like you can I can see this from a distance, I can see the scam happening and unfolding in real time. As much as I scream as much as I yell. I'm just watching people empty their pockets and putting it into the paper shredder and on the other side are just all the criminals going give us more coin, give us more. And nobody sees it. And it's just driving me crazy. So, yes, New York Times sums it up best with their first headline JPG file sells for $69 million. Way to go New York Times. I love you for that one. And so that's what started and finally sold it at Christie's, the people, the people art blog people. So it turns out this entity known as medeco, Vaughn Got it? Yep. Who was the bad guy in the matrix to the day?
Dave Bittner 22:00
Yes, we're here to speak with the merovingian.
Jason DeFillippo 22:04
Of course, he has been expecting you. Follow me. Anyway, so here's the deal. So medeco Vaughn bought it with funds from the metaverse NFT fund. So it's a big fund for NF T's. And previously, this is this is where it gets real fun here. So last year, people put up 20 pieces of art. And the B 20. collection. Well turns out Mehta purse bought all of them, all 20 of them right now, then they flip this to turn this into where you can buy part of the collection using a fractionalized token called, you guessed it b 20. So so
Brian Schulmeister 22:51
I can own a part of a JPEG.
Jason DeFillippo 22:53
You can own a part of a JPEG.
Brian Schulmeister 22:54
Jason DeFillippo 22:55
Which pixel would you like? Brian? Blue, please.
Remember the million dollar homepage from back in the day? Yep. Oh, yes. Yes. It's all becoming clear. So here's the thing. So you have this fractionalized purchase of this NF t pool that they've made, right. Yeah, turns out. Turns out, guess who owns part of that? That crypto fund of the B 20s. Who?
Brian Schulmeister 23:24
Jason DeFillippo 23:26
people just bought his own art. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's the price, right? He's a business partner with medeco Vaughn for some different things. And so the scam just keeps going at that point. And oh, my God, it's just it is so blatant.
Unknown Speaker 23:46
How are the people that are buying these things, crypto
Jason DeFillippo 23:50
millionaires who made a bunch of money when they bought this stuff early, and they've got too much money and no sense? Because they didn't earn it? They just walked into it and they've got buckets of money, and also the scammers themselves, right. So you know, it's the meat in his bullshit sandwich basically comes down to the fact that this is it's a grift it is a total grift. And, you know, I even laid this out when I went on lockout on marketing last week. And I'm like, Look, people are going to buy these, they're going to ramp them up. They're going to sell them and who it's it's a game of hot potato, it is a really shitty game of hot potato. That is it's going to crash and it's going to crash fast. Because people are just, you know, they're gonna figure it out fast. This one is just too bullshitty for them to keep going for very long. Now, of course Nosek sent this one in I was I was gonna throw it in before but I saw that no sex edited so thank you Nosek and isn't should this be now considered as cat burglar stealing art. And over the weekend, the nifty gateway had a bunch of people's accounts basically hacked into. So what they did was the nifty gateway is one of those places where it's unlike open sea where you have to use ether to buy the actual NFT. You can actually put in a credit card on nifty gateway because they're trying to ease the process of people to get into NF. T. Of course they are. Of course they are.
Brian Schulmeister 25:17
Yeah, they keep your pump up our prices, please.
Jason DeFillippo 25:20
Yeah, so a lot of these people had their credit card on file, and they found 10s and 20s of 1000s of dollars were missing from their, their bank accounts or their credit cards, and had been basically purchasing NFT on nifty gateway then exfiltrating it to other accounts, and then reselling it on Discord. So there was like no Chain of Custody because everything's anonymous on the blockchain. And, yeah, it's got you own
Brian Schulmeister 25:45
this bit of read from this JPEG.
Jason DeFillippo 25:47
I know. See, that's the whole funny thing. It's like, okay, your head's gonna explode. When you figure out somebody just stole a bag of bullshit. They're risking jail, to go into break into a computer system, use stolen credit cards, to buy things that just don't already exist to sell them to somebody else. Who wants something that doesn't really exist. I mean, we got to get out of the house, man, everybody needs the vaccine because people are just going stupid crazy right now. People get out of the house, go for a walk. Look at the stars do something because this is This is madness. It's absolute and utter madness.
Brian Schulmeister 26:28
It is. It's insane. I mean, I guess you could make an argument that is no more insane than Oh, I don't know the stock market except for the fact that that shit exists. These companies exist, they create value in the real world. We have we've completely untethered from any reality with this now. It's just completely untethered, which is fine, but don't
Jason DeFillippo 26:50
you know, Brian, but no, we know we're tethered because there's typical wine Come on. Okay.
Brian Schulmeister 26:58
Look, do what you want with your money. But do it with the money that you would save to blow in Vegas to begin with like because I don't want to have to fucking bail your ass out at the end and that's where it's gonna end up. We all know this it's going to end up with these people are going to fucking lose all the people at the bottom that are coming in to pump up the prices are going to lose all their money and who gets to support them then?
Jason DeFillippo 27:23
We do. Well also phenomenal what it what what happens when Bitcoin crashes? How much money does Apple have in Bitcoin? How much money does Tesla have in Bitcoin? I mean, granted, I wouldn't shed a tear if the Winklevoss twins went down. But that's just you know, that's just entertainment. But
Brian Schulmeister 27:39
well, the people at the top would never go down, though. They sell they sell when they see the wind is blowing, and they may lose a little bit of their value, but they don't lose it all. It's the people hanging it's the game stoppers on Reddit that end up holding the fucking back.
Robert Fogarty 28:04
Brian Schulmeister 28:07
So the Grammys were this last weekend? And I thought
Jason DeFillippo 28:11
you said you were gonna watch award shows anymore.
Brian Schulmeister 28:13
Well, I don't want to watch them. My wife is it's worked for her. Like, you know, it's part of her gigs. Like she has to watch this sort of stuff. And because I was sitting on the couch with her, I ended up watching it as well. They weren't bad on okay. They they pivoted through this Coronavirus thing quite well, I thought, No speeches, no presenters, just performances. Now granted, I could give a shit about anybody that was performing the Grammys because I'm old and it's not my music. But you know, it was actually a great format. Did you ever see the Jools Holland show from over in England where he basically just has like three or four bands and a rotating stage and that's the show they perform live. That's it. That's what the Grammys were like and what a great format. I hope they never returned to the previous bullshit that they did before.
Jason DeFillippo 29:05
Wouldn't that be great? I did want to be making the stallion dance number. I gotta say the showmanship was off the hook. I mean, look
Brian Schulmeister 29:13
pretty. I can make some some serious arguments about most of the stuff that we're on the Grammys isn't actually music, its performance, but it's good performance.
Jason DeFillippo 29:22
Yeah, I mean, it was entertaining, that's for sure.
Brian Schulmeister 29:24
Yeah. So I I found myself actually watching the Grammys for the first time in years.
Jason DeFillippo 29:31
First Perfect. Okay, well, we found somebody that's at least COVID resistant.
Brian Schulmeister 29:36
And I actually found a new podcast this week. It's been around for a while, but I actually started listening to it pivot hosted by Vox media now, I stayed away from this probably because it's Kara Swisher and I'm not a huge Kara Swisher fan. However, I was not aware of Professor Scott Galloway and he was a guest host or not guest host he was a guest on Bill Maher and He is an angry, angry man.
Jason DeFillippo 30:03
I love him.
Brian Schulmeister 30:04
I do love him. So now I've started listening to the podcast because of him. It's pretty good. They talk a lot about tech stuff, but it's mostly from a company and investment. What they're not saying to invest in that they're not trying to do that. But that's definitely like they go into the fundamentals of companies. And yeah, you know, if you are thinking of investing in tech and don't know too much, this is a podcast you should listen to. It's It's very good. And I do like it just because he's so angry.
Jason DeFillippo 30:31
Yeah. Is he on all the time now? Or just that just one? Yeah,
Brian Schulmeister 30:34
there they are. They're they're the two hosts of this podcast now. So that's what makes it pretty good.
Jason DeFillippo 30:40
Okay. Yeah, I'll sign up for that. Because I her I can, you know, take her leave sometimes. She does really good interview sometimes. But yeah, no, I love him. Get his newsletter too. It's pretty good.
Brian Schulmeister 30:51
Okay, I'll definitely sign up for that. So yeah, become a new fan of him. So all right, anything he does I will do I've been watching National Geographic Kids shows on Disney plus i gotta say Disney plus if you have a kid is a goldmine. It's amazing. So beyond just the animated stuff, their their deal with National Geographic, all the shows that they have on there, my kid is so into like snakes right now and and Disney plus delivers. But I've been struggling with this idea of honesty with my kid like we my wife and I talked about this all the time, like how honest Are we going to be or we're going to try to always be honest, we kind of fell down on Yes, let's you know, the world is the world. Let's be honest. Keeping in mind my kid is four. But during this king cobra documentary, they showed a male and female mating. And I was asked by my son if they were fighting, and I just said yes. And then the female killed the male. So we switch back to Paw Patrol. Sometimes nature's a little too brutal.
Jason DeFillippo 31:46
Yes. All the secrets of life. Yes. Netflix is going to be cracking down on password sharing. It seems this is all over the news. Yeah. And I guess the big deal, I have always paid for everybody that's on my account. So I guess I shouldn't have been doing that. Now. It's too late. Dammit.
Brian Schulmeister 32:06
So far, I haven't experienced a problem. I do share Netflix, with family. We, you know, I don't pay for Netflix my sister in law does. But she uses my Disney Plus account. So that's this is what everybody does. We we share our stuff around because it's too expensive otherwise. But this, of course, makes sense. At some point Netflix is going to run out of people to sell to because we're all sharing our logins. And I'm sure they've hit that point. I'm sure the only reason that they're doing this is the numbers people have said we have no more growth you have, we're slowing down. This is the same for all streaming media companies. This is our new version of untethering I buy this one you buy that one, we share our logins, that's what we do, the price of buying into all these services is unsustainable. See, you know, four years of shows before this all happened where we talked about cutting the cord and how it's just gonna end up screwing us and being more expensive. That's where we're at. So of course, they took the right course of action as long as they could they ignored it because get people hooked right drug dealer. I you're hooked on Netflix now. So now we're gonna say you can't share it anymore. So now you're gonna have to buy it too. And this is the only way that they can grow. This is the only viable option for them to satisfy shareholder demand.
Jason DeFillippo 33:17
Yay, late stage capitalism. That's what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen? How many services are you up to that
Brian Schulmeister 33:22
you pay for? Uh, let's see. I've got Paramount plus, I've got I don't pay. Well, technically, I have Apple plus, but it's just this rolling thing of buying new devices
Jason DeFillippo 33:33
to get to get it? Yeah.
Brian Schulmeister 33:34
And the only thing I've really watched on that is Ted last Oh, anyways, Netflix and HBO. And I think that's about it. I get Hulu free with Spotify.
Jason DeFillippo 33:44
Yeah, I got that one too. So yeah, yeah, I don't pay for Disney. Plus, I did a horse swap for HBO max for that one. I do get Showtime, Showtime, I got Showtime through. It isn't the nice one. If you have an Apple TV or use the Apple TV app on the Roku, you can pop in and out of those services fairly easily, which is really nice. You can just buy it for a month. Or if you forget and sign up, you can cancel it really easy. I think the cancellation process is so much better on the Apple TV, because you can just go into your Apple account and say yeah, I'm done with that. And it'll just stop when it's over. Right. And I gotta say discovery plus, that has been the big surprise for me. I you know, it's like seven bucks. and stuff on there. Except it I did get epics on accident because I had it for a month and I was like, oh, great condors on there. I can go watch season two, guess what? No, no.
Brian Schulmeister 34:41
See, that's the thing. That's the thing with these apps, if they've got deals with cable companies to to have the networks and all that sort of stuff. They hold the new content. It doesn't show up on the apps right away, even if you're paying for the app and that is bullshit.
Jason DeFillippo 34:55
Yeah, kinda. I can get season one episode one only at this point. Even though season two is over,
Brian Schulmeister 35:02
and that's that's complete bullshit. And that's what ruins just every plus for me because I want the latest Food Network stuff and they don't put the latest stuff up.
Unknown Speaker 35:11
Ups and do
Brian Schulmeister 35:14
speaking of Apple, plus, the reason I have it again is I got a new phone Finally, I was using your iPhone eight that you sold me a while back almost two years ago now I think right? Yeah, like that. Back, you know, when we could leave the house and see each other? Yeah, the battery finally started to shit out on that. So I was like, Alright, let's get a new one. So I got an iPhone 12 not the pro don't need it. Just the regular one. It's fine. At first, I was very annoyed by face ID I missed my own button. But you know, like everything you adapt very, very quickly. Yep. And I did. I like back tap Settings. I don't ever remember them. That's that's pretty cool. But otherwise, man, I you know, I had an iPhone seven for years. Then I went to an iPhone eight. I waited so long between update cycles that we went to double digits. We're on iPhone 12. And if you go that long without upgrade cycles, you kind of expect a bit more. Honestly, if the battery hadn't crapped out on your old phone, I'd still be quite happy using that
Jason DeFillippo 36:15
I don't there's there's no real benefit to the iPhone 12 that I can see. It's faster and but you didn't even get the LIDAR version. So you could you know, scan your apartment. Don't
Brian Schulmeister 36:26
scan my apartment.
Jason DeFillippo 36:29
And I gotta say this back to app settings when you were texted me about it. And I'm like, oh, set up. I set up double tap for screen capture. And I'm like, this is gonna be bad. I'm gonna have a bunch of garbage screencaps on here. Turns out I was right.
Brian Schulmeister 36:40
Well, I You're right, too. So but I switched mine to triple tap for the screenshot. And I don't get anywhere near as many.
Jason DeFillippo 36:48
Yeah, see, my triple tap is for black and white mode, which I set but right before I go to bed in case I need to look at it at night. I like it in black and white mode. So Alright,
Brian Schulmeister 36:57
so having said all that with my phone upgrade, I'm sending in my old iPhone seven and eight because I have them both still sitting around through Apple's trading program. I mean, you can trust them. Yeah. So I'm going to get a good chunk of change coming back. So I'm going to ask you Jason, what should I upgrade next? I haven't I watched three. Should I go up to the I watch six? Or should I take my AirPods to AirPods pro?
Jason DeFillippo 37:20
I would go with the Apple Watch six personally, okay, it's lighter, it's thinner, it's bigger. And you can do the EKG stuff on it. Which is good because it's in this these days of going to see a doctor you know, over zoom. Sometimes they ask you for that. So I've had to send in my EKGs to my my doc a couple times which is nice. It's comfier because it's thinner as well and bigger. I love the AirPods pro I love but I get I think I get more use out of the the Apple Watch six versus, versus that. That's
Brian Schulmeister 37:54
whenever my my gift card show up. I will I will upgrade my watch. And you have it. There you have it. And Dustin wrote in I heard you mentioned recently you wished Apple would rerelease the original 16 gigabyte iPod for the nostalgia I'd pass but I came across this video of a guy rebuilding an iPod Classic to stream Spotify and thought you might enjoy it. And this is a YouTube video Spotify streaming on my 17 year old iPod Classic via Raspberry Pi. Or you could just download the app onto your phone.
Jason DeFillippo 38:22
I get it I get what he's trying to do.
Brian Schulmeister 38:24
No it's cool. It's cool but
Jason DeFillippo 38:26
yeah, you know what you could actually do is you could just crack the thing open and put an Apple Watch inside of it. Let's use the Apple Watch part.
Brian Schulmeister 38:34
Here I just got I'm gonna lay my my my record player on top of my iPod Classic streaming music that way
Jason DeFillippo 38:41
you go. Apple has has basically discontinued the home pod the home pod Garan day they're gonna keep the mini but the big home pod is finally going Bye bye. It's been around for years. And I know not one single person that owns one
Brian Schulmeister 38:59
Yeah, I don't either. If I were in that ecosystem I would be pretty pissed off about it but apparently there's nobody in that ecosystem because nobody's pissed off about it. The sound on those things was supposed to be phenomenal Yeah, that's what I nominal
Jason DeFillippo 39:12
so but I guess the minis are pretty good too. So right now the biggest problem is Siri Yeah, issue series garbage.
Brian Schulmeister 39:21
All I use Siri is that is a fucking egg timer for me. That's all it is.
Jason DeFillippo 39:26
That's what it is forever. I'm sorry. But that's what the lady the other ladies in the toolbar. It's you know, they are their timers. That's it. The only thing that I am even serious. I can't set multiple timers. You know, it's like okay, well, my eggs are going here. I want those for seven minutes. But I've got, you know, my chickens in the oven. I need that for 45. You can't do them both at the same time. I'm like
Brian Schulmeister 39:48
that. That's why I have I have I have all the flavors that ladies in the tube in my kitchen so I can have three timers going. I've got my Google Home. I've got my home pod and I've got my Amazon That goes so I can do three things at once. Oh,
Jason DeFillippo 40:04
the world we live in the world we live in. We got some news this week that Adobe has finally put out Photoshop for the apple m one, Max. And sorta turns out, some of it works. But if you actually want to get work done, you have to go back to the Intel emulation still. So thanks, guys. There is a new way to scale images though that they have put into my head that I haven't tried yet. I'm dying to try it, but I just haven't had time. Which would be great if it works because I've got that Topaz gigapixel ai program that works really well. And then, you know, if I turn on the face recognition I can get what's his name and all the windows in the building. Remember that? Wasn't it wasn't it wasn't the guy from the notebook wasn't what? I can't remember any of these guys. They all look the same to me. Sorry, I
Brian Schulmeister 40:57
can't help you. Okay, brain farting to
Jason DeFillippo 41:00
Yeah, whatever. Anyway, so hopefully, if that works, then I can get rid of one app that I have to maintain. But everybody that I've seen tweets about it since fucking incredible. But yeah, there you go. So all right, this is basically just a PR push for Photoshop. So nothing really has changed yet.
Brian Schulmeister 41:20
All right, and the FAA is final drone rules will start taking effect on April 21. For all of you drone or people out there which is sooner than expected. But it is what it is the regulator is revealed that remote ID and operations over people rules will start taking effect as of April 21 2021. From then on, you'll have to list the serial number of any remote ID drone or add on module in your registration. You can fly small drones over people if they have protected blades. But you can't conduct sustained flight over open air assemblies unless you comply with remote ID. Other heavier drones have stricter operational and performance requirements such as limits on the amount of force they deliver in a crash, which is nice to know. You know, I don't have a problem with any of these rules. This is great. There's some breathing room built into this drone makers have to comply with remote ID requirements starting September 16 2022. While all pilots will have to meet remote ID requirements or fly within limitations a year later in September 16 2023. This article talks about how these rules won't please everyone alphabets drone delivery company wing has worried about privacy. Noting the broth that broadcasts remote IDs can let people in first sensitive data like home addresses. Yeah, yeah, I would like to know who flew the drone into my child. So
Jason DeFillippo 42:40
I think for them they're worried about like, it's like you see you see the alphabet drone and you see it flying in Atlanta at somebody's house. Well, if you can see it landing at the house, who cares that
Brian Schulmeister 42:49
your argument is invalid here
Jason DeFillippo 42:51
is absolutely invalid. Oh, yeah, this this doesn't affect any of my drones at this point. Which I can't fly anyway, because thanks to global warming, we have consistent Santa Ana winds every day that I have off to go fly my drone so they are it has been windy as fuck here. Oh my god, it's ridiculous.
Unknown Speaker 43:16
Brian Schulmeister 43:20
so we haven't had in that library segment for a couple of weeks. I know Jason has been busy. I've been reading one book in particular, that has taken me a long time to read because frankly, it scares the fucking shit out of me and depresses me so I put it down every couple every day. Every chapter I have to walk away from it. I finished this is how they tell me the world ends the cyber cyber weapons arms race by Nicole Perla pearl Ross. Wow. We are screwed. Everybody is in everything. We have reached our new you know, our new nuclear deterrence accepted cyber war. We're in Russia's shit stresses in our shit. The Chinese are in everybody's shit. We're in the Chinese this shit. We're all basically just poised over a finger for zero days to press a button. And we can shut down everything everywhere in the world. All of us, everybody all the time. Holy shit, we're screwed.
Jason DeFillippo 44:18
So it's best not to know these things. Brian. Yeah, I
Brian Schulmeister 44:20
kind of wish I could read this book. To be honest. I definitely want to ask Dave about about this. I'm sure he's read it as well. We'll talk about that in the security section a little bit. It's it's phenomenal. It's stunning. It's shocking. It's everything that we kind of knew what was going on, but laid out as clear as day. And yeah, really, really scary. But well written. well researched a very good book. Very good.
Jason DeFillippo 44:47
I'll pass. I appreciate your review and I appreciate you taking the time to review it for us. Which is great because now I don't have to read it. I've got enough scary shit in my life. I'm down the crypto hole.
Brian Schulmeister 44:59
This is This stuff is so bad. It feels like you're reading science fiction.
Jason DeFillippo 45:03
Brian Schulmeister 45:04
Yeah. That's how bad I am still up. I can't say proud anymore. I'm still a shareholder of Tesla. This guy Ilan, Ilan, Ilan. Ilan needs to move away but, but apparently he's got a whole bunch of enablers there. So who's going to come along next? I don't know. Ilan Musk has changed his job title to the techno king of Tesla. So you think about well, if Ilan goes away, the company will still do really well by itself. They'll have adults in charge. Meanwhile, the company's CFO Zach Kerkorian has a new position. That's right out of Game of Thrones. He's the Master of Coin.
Jason DeFillippo 45:47
Brian Schulmeister 45:48
yeah. Look, when we were like, 20. And we were making up our own companies and stuff like that we would print out business cards for ourselves that had funny titles. What are your 20?
Jason DeFillippo 46:00
Our title for a long time, Brian, come on was webmaster. That was? That was a thing. Yes. You think about that for a minute. That was a legitimate title. We were the webmaster.
Brian Schulmeister 46:11
I'm not gonna argue with that. But you know, I'm just saying you're a massive company, your your company's worth is more than all of the automakers combined. Please take it seriously every now and then.
Jason DeFillippo 46:26
Well, maybe this is how you get to become the tech No kidding, is that you just don't take
Brian Schulmeister 46:32
the dance who wants to sing who wants to be the techno King.
Jason DeFillippo 46:39
I saw this I saw this one over at the LA Times it came through yesterday because it was an invite to a webinar. And oh, they have a new series called we can teach you that. Over the la times they have experts come in and some of the previous courses, we're capturing this moment and photos, how to write and sell your mystery novel, how to navigate healthcare and vital services, which sounds like a you know, something that you really should, should know how to do that how to be helpful how to connect with friends and family could use that a year ago, maybe? And how to travel safely if you must, huh? Okay. And the first one was how to make a family cookbook, which, you know, that okay,
Brian Schulmeister 47:21
not bad. Okay. Yeah. I would like how to how to access more than five articles from Los Angeles Times without paying for it. Well,
Jason DeFillippo 47:29
I just pay for it. So there you go. That's how you got to bite the bullet. But I'm going to reconsider my subscription to the la times after this one. Because now in the new week and teach you that segment segment, they have a how to binge watch like an expert. Yes, that's right. Oh, that's right. Okay. They are going to make me go sit in a webinar, so they can teach me how to binge watch. I don't know what they've been thinking we're doing for the past year. But a little late to the party on this one LA Times. slow news day, I don't know. But hey, step one, sit
Brian Schulmeister 48:08
on couch. That's it. There's only one step
Jason DeFillippo 48:13
put down newspaper. Do not read LA to
Brian Schulmeister 48:16
not read our paper and put on TV done.
Unknown Speaker 48:24
Jason DeFillippo 48:28
We are joined again this week by Dave Bittner. Dave is the host of the cyber wire podcast as well as the co host of the social engineering podcast hacking humans with Joe Kerrigan and also the co host of caveat with Ben yelin, where they discuss law and policy as well as surveillance and privacy and any more shows this week, Dave? Well, you know, I'm
Dave Bittner 48:45
also the host of the recorded future podcast covers threat intelligence and cybersecurity stuff. So if that's your game, in fact, we just celebrated our 200th episode over there. So
Brian Schulmeister 48:58
I have to rework our intro now. But
Dave Bittner 49:02
you know, it's getting to the point where it's easier to list the podcast that I don't host he does
Brian Schulmeister 49:07
not host the Joe Rogan show. Right.
Dave Bittner 49:10
Right. Absolutely. So, but thank you. I appreciate the cross promotion there. No, every little bit helps, right? Yes, it
Jason DeFillippo 49:17
does. Yes, it does. So since that we started the show a little bit ago. We have some breaking news, huh. Ilan Musk is now selling one of his tweets as an NF t in the NF T is a song about NF. T. Which we unfortunately have passed more on the week where you're on Musk is the technos Super Dingdong, king of the world. But now he's he's the nifty King.
Brian Schulmeister 49:43
Yeah, you know, I we've we've spent a lot of time this episode talking about NF T's again, I don't understand them. I certainly don't understand buying a tweet is the dumbest thing in the world. I'm not sure who's dumber Ilan for doing this or the people bidding 1.1 million for it. well enough. whatever it was. kicked off. Obviously, people have far too much time and money even during a pandemic.
Jason DeFillippo 50:05
Yes, I was actually putting this in here to kind of cement the fact that you were right Brian, you know when you're going to be CEO, be CEO of Yes, one company, one company,
Brian Schulmeister 50:16
company and be an adult. Yeah,
Dave Bittner 50:22
I don't get it either. I there I've seen people saying that it's it's full of folks who are using it for money laundering, particularly with things like artwork, which evidently you know, art is worth as much as you say, it's worth so that makes that I'm sure you guys you guys covered all this. Am I repeating? Oh, yeah. All right. Well, I won't bore the audience then. But I'm with you, Brian, left scratching my head. How is this a thing? It reminds me of tulip madness.
Brian Schulmeister 50:48
It is it is it's all crazy. The thing about this particular story that you've put in Jason now and I've been struggling with this for quite some time as a as a Tesla shareholder. I've gotten to the point where I'm embarrassed saying I'm a Tesla shareholder, I think it might be time as well as the stock has generally done for me over the years. It might be time for us to part ways.
Jason DeFillippo 51:09
There you go,
I think but we do have a new show that we're gonna have to start now called How is this thing? The Internet much better than nifty news.
Brian Schulmeister 51:21
Well, I had a bit of news we talked to the other week about the Tom Cruise deep fakes and deep fakes are now becoming weaponized. This occurred in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. I just like to make it sound classy. I'm sure they call it Chalfont, right? Rafi Ella spoon allegedly use deep fakes in a bid to kick rivals offer daughter's cheerleading squad the victory Vipers. She said coaches AI altered photos and videos of teens portraying them is drinking smoking and naked Now does that not count as child pornography? I would imagine it I would imagine so and the police thought so as well. Yes, she is. She is in some degree of trouble at the moment. And wow, to think that this was a smooth move more like diapers.
Jason DeFillippo 52:09
You know what I'm saying there? Yep.
Dave Bittner 52:11
Yeah. Oh, how much money you want to bet that mama spoon was once a cheerleader herself?
Brian Schulmeister 52:17
Jason DeFillippo 52:18
I'm not taking that bet.
Brian Schulmeister 52:21
And I'm sure as a cheerleader she often drank smoked and was naked. You do what? You know. Right, Dave?
Dave Bittner 52:29
I guess always go
Jason DeFillippo 52:31
back to the well.
Dave Bittner 52:32
Yeah. I it's just sad. And it's just just a reminder that some people are terrible. And just, it strikes me as
Brian Schulmeister 52:41
if we need more reminders.
Dave Bittner 52:42
Yeah, yeah. If these allegations are true, then this woman is terrible. And but also that these tools are so readily available. Even your mom can use them? Yes.
Brian Schulmeister 52:56
Even your mom and shell phone is capable of knocking these out and sending them off into the world. Sounds a little frightening. But yeah, yeah,
Dave Bittner 53:04
I'm reminded of there was a story a couple years back a few years back now where there was a coach, or a dad of a young peewee football team. And he was making all of the little metal pieces on the straps of his son's helmet razor sharp, so that any other kids that this kid came in contact with would end up sliced to bits. And so he also was on the list of horrible people who who, why. How does one thing to do this, you know, in for their kids like?
Unknown Speaker 53:40
Dave Bittner 53:42
the kids don't get it? Yeah, like they're thinking, Okay, how can I give my kid a leg up? How can I give my kid an advantage by taking
Brian Schulmeister 53:50
out the other kids legs? Right?
Jason DeFillippo 53:54
Aim for the artery son.
Brian Schulmeister 53:57
Just Yeah, sad.
Dave Bittner 53:59
It is sad. It is sad.
Jason DeFillippo 54:01
Well, I wonder if the police use this new tool that was developed at the University of Buffalo zoo. They have now figured out a way to spot deep fakes that are 94% effective. Surprisingly, what they're doing is they're checking the reflections in the cornea to see if they have the ring of truth as it were.
Brian Schulmeister 54:21
That's interesting. Does it work if you're actually just dead inside?
Dave Bittner 54:28
What if you have a glass II?
Brian Schulmeister 54:30
Sammy Davis Jr. and it's got a problem. Yeah, right. Oh, that's cool. I mean, it's whack a mole though, right? Because now they know and they can do things to fight against it. So yeah,
Jason DeFillippo 54:41
it all comes back to the eyes though. The last time that they figured out how to spot deep fakes was nobody was blinking. So they fixed the they they added to blink technology. And now Now we'll have cornea technology.
Dave Bittner 54:52
Yeah, I think I might have mentioned on the show one. So when I made a TV commercial and I was doing motion graphics for it was just so well. I'm standing in front of a green screen, and we put her in front of a, you know, pretty graphic background, and so on and so forth. And the client came back and said, I love the commercial, but I think she blinks too much can you make her not blink so much. I was like, Well,
Brian Schulmeister 55:14
Dave Bittner 55:15
so I cut out a little, little I cut basically cut out a little layer of just her eyes, made a little loop of her blinking at a much slower interval. And then use motion tracking to place that back on her face. So that basically slowed her blinking down to half the rate that it was before. But it's still her eyes, and they were tracked perfectly well on her face. So you're there's no, there was no way to know it wasn't her. But thinking of that makes me think of this, that if that were so easy for me to do a decade ago in After Effects, that these folks aren't going to have a whole lot of trouble tracking real eyes on to deep fakes.
Brian Schulmeister 55:58
Yep, yep. Yep. It's just gonna be a plugin. Yep. Yep. So we've spent some time talking about hacking as a service in this particular arena. And I read this article over advice that It's troublesome, to say the least, especially as we are all kind of pushing the world into two factor authentication and all that sort of stuff. And everybody's just using their cell phones now. You know, you get the text from your, from your bank, you put in the code and your into your site and all that. a hacker got all my texts for $16. And this is a gaping flaw in SMS that lets hackers take over phone numbers in minutes by simply paying a company to reroute text messages. Not good
Jason DeFillippo 56:41
reason why you shouldn't use a text base two factor authentication, you should always use an app.
Dave Bittner 56:46
Yeah, yeah, the root of the issue here is there's a company called sakkari, I believe is how you pronounce it. And they are a marketing firm. They, they, they have tools for folks to use SMS for marketing purposes. So reminders, alerts, marketing campaigns, all that kind of stuff. And as part of that, they allow people to reroute SMS messages from one number to another number, basically function as kind of a reflector. But the seems like the the, the weak point in the process here was that when, when they ask you, if you are the legitimate owner of this particular number, all you have to do is say yes, and they believe you. That's it, there's no verification, they send nothing out to that number to say is this really, we just got an alert and we're trying to reroute the all everything coming to this number. Please respond, if you're okay with that, right. But none of that, not any kind of security. So the folks at sahkari say that they've put new things in place to prevent this. But as this article points out, there are many, many companies who do this. And it seems like the root problem is that there really isn't a whole lot of regulation when it comes to SMS and the companies themselves are loosey goosey about it about who can have access to it.
Brian Schulmeister 58:05
Are you telling me that companies aren't self regulating?
Dave Bittner 58:09
We got to let the market decide when Yeah, I guess we do. People will push back on this and that'll it'll just it'll change. They won't be willing to pay for it. And it'll it'll change. Yes. No problem. Yeah. I have an interesting if nothing else, the the title of this article would resonate, particularly with Brian, I don't know why I thought that but it's an article from Gizmodo. It's written by Shauna wood insky and the title is anonymized data is meaningless bullshit. I know that I have to go farther than that. Just
Brian Schulmeister 58:47
not really. It's Yeah, that's that's great. I love personally, you know, I do like to think of myself self is somewhat high class sometimes. And I like to read the Atlantic and the New Yorker and things of that nature. But I do like the generalized trend towards cuss words in headlines these days when when merited and
Dave Bittner 59:08
yeah, oh, yeah, I think I think bullshit is a uniquely it's a word with unique meaning. Like, you know, I think back when Penn and Teller were doing their bullshit show they, they made a point of that, that you know, it, it has specific meaning. So I to like it. But to your point of being classy. This article is based off of research done by a couple of students at Harvard.
Jason DeFillippo 59:35
Right, fiercely Harvard.
Dave Bittner 59:37
Right, right. And they went through a bunch of data sets. And, you know, no news here for us who've been following this stuff that they can go through the data sets and cross reference them and anonymized data is not is not optimized and yes, and so on and so forth. So, this yet another bit of data to add on that pile to show that anonymized data is meaningless bullshit.
Brian Schulmeister 1:00:01
Maybe this is how we should rebrand our show Jason we should be called we should call ourselves internet bullshit and do a deep dive every episode of The fact of the internet. That is bullshit today statistics are meaningless bullshit. anonymized data is meaningless bullshit. Social influencers are meaningless bullshit.
Jason DeFillippo 1:00:20
They can just go all day. Still not going to be available in India.
Brian Schulmeister 1:00:24
Yes, NF T's are meaningless bullshit. Absolutely.
Jason DeFillippo 1:00:28
I do gotta say if you guys haven't read it yet, calling bullshit. The Art of skepticism in a data driven world is a fantastic book.
Brian Schulmeister 1:00:34
Yes. Well, I finished that just a few weeks back. It was wonderful.
Dave Bittner 1:00:39
Well, the last thing I have here I threw in here for fun before we get to I know we have some feedback. But this came over the verge, and it's titled zoom escaper lets you sabotage your own meetings with audio problems crying babies, and more. It had to come to the answer. Actually, I'm surprised it took so long and of course that I owe to those of us who have tools like audio hijack and have sound boards and stuff have been way ahead on this. And of course, yeah, scammers have been ahead on this too. You always hear about folks who have crying baby sounds in the background. But basically someone has built a tool called zoom escaper, which is a free web widget. It's basically a soundboard that lets you choose different sound effects to start playing in the background to give you an excuse to basically get out of your meeting. like dogs barking a man weeping urination. I'm not sure why I guess.
Brian Schulmeister 1:01:31
Well, somebody is in the room urinating I guess you and I have a problem.
Dave Bittner 1:01:36
I guess. I mean, you could say, oh, gosh, I accidentally I gotta go nature calls or something? I don't know. But yeah. A fun tool. And yes,
Brian Schulmeister 1:01:45
very reminiscent of the old days of driving around with the cell phone going, Oh, I'm going through the valley. Or, you know, basically just being on at&t. Yeah,
Jason DeFillippo 1:01:58
yeah. So this made me think it's like, okay, we've been locked down in the pandemic for a year now. And after a year, you usually have an award show. In an award shows you typically tend to have an In Memoriam section. And I think I do believe that we need to have an In Memoriam section for people who have lost their jobs by masturbating on zoom or not wearing pants.
Dave Bittner 1:02:26
My favorite one is the one with the the woman who had her camera on and she went and took a bathroom break and she put the the laptop on the floor in her bathroom, what she fell down her pants and sat on the toilet. And then what's most fun about it is you get to see the horrified faces of all of her work colleagues. Some of them are trying to be good Samaritans and flagging her down. Others are laughing their heads off to comedy gold. comedy gold.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:54
Yeah, we could call it the whoopsies. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:59
Brian Schulmeister 1:03:01
Yeah. Great. So we did get a little feedback on your on your awesome posed question last week, Dave. And then we had a couple people write in. David wrote in and said what song sums up 80 is the best Talking Heads wild wildlife, especially the video. That's a very solid,
Unknown Speaker 1:03:16
Brian Schulmeister 1:03:18
rook choice reminded us of a song that we just discussed recently on the podcast and this is very 80s 80s music to me is Axel f no reason given it just is emphasis added by me because you know,
Dave Bittner 1:03:32
I'd say that's another solid choice. Yeah. I would put in that category. Herbie Hancock's rocket which
Brian Schulmeister 1:03:39
Yes, yes, definitely.
Jason DeFillippo 1:03:41
That's what I think of Herbie Hancock then I go back to electric Avenue. I feel that that's
Brian Schulmeister 1:03:46
a great song
Jason DeFillippo 1:03:47
that No it's not, but if they were, that was on the radio at the same time, okay, when Herbie Hancock was big, so they would always bounce back and forth, you know, to black artists
Brian Schulmeister 1:03:57
that would get played on k rock. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:02
Dave Bittner 1:04:03
Not Sad but true. Find a point on it. But yeah,
Brian Schulmeister 1:04:06
we call him Living Color came around.
Dave Bittner 1:04:08
We know Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah rocket while I think of Herbie Hancock, the chameleon album also, but for certainly for the 80s that was, and Herbie Hancock got robbed of a Grammy nomination, because they wouldn't give him best instrumental because there's a few words in there and that to me was bullshit. There you go.
Brian Schulmeister 1:04:28
Yes, there you go. And finally, Amanda wrote in Long time no see regarding the musical question about the ultimate 80 song from Episode 498. For me that would be Alphaville is forever young. It's hard to explain the 80s optimistic but expecting things to turn to poop at any moment vibe to people who weren't there, but that particular song evokes this for me along with some vividly bittersweet memories. There will probably be more memories left if I had been more sober when I was off duty back then. Grandpa great track a little bit I think niche in the alternative realm, but good choice. Great song.
Dave Bittner 1:04:59
Yeah, I have to Say before we started recording this segment I went and brought that up on YouTube and spent five minutes staring at my monitor with you know, weepy eyes. Kind of a I think Amanda's right this I mean that song is a time machine. And yeah boy do I it just puts me back in that time of my life and something some songs do that that's one of them so it's a good good choice.
Brian Schulmeister 1:05:31
I just came up with a new one since we were discussing the Herbie Hancock and all and all of that sort of stuff. The the the kind of instrumentals with a word or two in them. I can think of no more at song than yellows. Oh, yeah.
Jason DeFillippo 1:05:43
Unknown Speaker 1:05:47
Dave Bittner 1:05:50
yeah, you know, I met him once. Yeah, I met so it's even more random. I was in I was in the lunch buffet line at na B, which is the National Association of Broadcasters convention in in, in Vegas, huge convention. 120,000 people, I think, at the time, it was second only to CES for big shows. So I'm in there, you know, waiting in line to get my chicken nuggets and my fries or whatever. And a buddy of mine was in LA was with me, and he's Swedish. And I think the guy that I want to I don't know if I have this right. So please, I'm just using this as placeholders but and he said, you see that guy next to you? I was like, Yeah, because that's yellow.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:32
I said yellow. Yeah. Oh,
Brian Schulmeister 1:06:38
I bet that guy his entire life when he is recognized, always just hears behind. Yeah, yeah. People going Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now,
Jason DeFillippo 1:06:48
every time he would they would say that he just go, huh? Yeah,
Dave Bittner 1:06:54
it always reminds me the end credits to Ferris Bueller. Oh, yeah. I also had a roommate in college who was like worked for the campus radio station. And he realized that if you speed up, like if you play the 33 RPM version at 45 all you hear yellow saying, Oh, yeah. Beautiful. You know, slow down.
Brian Schulmeister 1:07:19
Dave Bittner 1:07:20
Yeah. So yeah, that's that. That's a good that's a really good choice. That's a really good choice. And the fact that it made it into so many movies too, I think makes it extra iconic.
Brian Schulmeister 1:07:31
Jason DeFillippo 1:07:32
I have to go listen, to Alphaville is forever young because I can't for the life of me picture that song.
Brian Schulmeister 1:07:37
Oh, do I get weepy even just thinking about I don't know. Hear the chorus right now. My eye starts to quiver.
Dave Bittner 1:07:43
I Jason I did the same thing. Because when I saw the first thing I thought of was Rod Stewart's Forever Young. Yeah. And I was like, well, that's not it. And then so I went to YouTube. And I looked this up and I was like, Oh, right.
Brian Schulmeister 1:07:58
Getting old is awesome is.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:01
Dave Bittner 1:08:02
you know what? You got to let yourself do that. Sometimes you got to let yourself just, you know, melt into a puddle of weeping nostalgia. someday. Someday in the near future. Well, not near future as someday in the forest future. Some
Brian Schulmeister 1:08:15
some kid will sit around and listen to whap and get all misty eyed.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:20
Dave Bittner 1:08:21
they were the first time they heard it? Yeah, it's true. All right. Well, good. Good feedback. Thanks, everybody for writing in. I just I don't think there's a stinker in this list. I think they're all strong choices. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:36
Jason DeFillippo 1:08:38
over at Patreon. We've got Adam.
Brian Schulmeister 1:08:41
Well, thanks, Adam. We lost quite a few patrons. I know. Everybody's said the times are tough. Again. We've been talking about this for a year. We appreciate any donations that you have made. Obviously if if you're having financial problems, we get it. No problem. No worries.
Jason DeFillippo 1:08:57
Yep. Yep. Dogs just go hungry. That's all. sad little puppy dog guys. No Kimble. Kids
Brian Schulmeister 1:09:03
shoes have holes in them.
Jason DeFillippo 1:09:04
I know. It's fine. It's fine. Yep, they only get to watch two hours of Disney plus, because we can't afford electricity anymore. Yeah, I have to go to the Bitcoin fields and shovel snow.
Brian Schulmeister 1:09:14
That's fine. It's fine. I have an NFA I own part of a JPEG now. So I'm hoping it's all gonna work out.
Jason DeFillippo 1:09:20
Those two pixels are your retirement fund.
Brian Schulmeister 1:09:22
That's college college.
Jason DeFillippo 1:09:23
Oh, college. I gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Over at PayPal. We've got Linda Andrew, Natalie, Nigel, Raj, Logan and Nathaniel. Thank you guys very much.
Brian Schulmeister 1:09:32
Thank you so much. And some sad news. This week, the inventor of the cassette tape has died. Lou ottens, the former Phillips engineer who gave the world its first compact cassette tape has passed away. According to Dutch news outlet, NRC handles bad. He was 94 years old when he passed away on March 6, he worked on the cassette tape in the early 1960s. He wanted to develop a way for people to listen to music that was affordable and accessible in the way that large reel to reel tapes at the time, were not so So he created a wooden prototype that could fit into his pocket to help guide the project. He was a fucking littler
Jason DeFillippo 1:10:10
sitting out on the porch having this bartles and jaymes making
Brian Schulmeister 1:10:15
whistling the classics of the day going if only I had a way to listen to this for derwood
Jason DeFillippo 1:10:22
little little Joe down the street was whittling up his first Walkman
Brian Schulmeister 1:10:28
Walkman. But it didn't stop there. He also went on to help Philips and Sony developed the compact discs. So pretty cool. Pretty cool stuff.
Jason DeFillippo 1:10:36
Yep, great career, great career. We've got a couple of links in there and one from the washington post with a bunch of tributes to him, which I think we all have if we're of a certain age. Now my little brother doesn't have no clue but a cassette tape.
Brian Schulmeister 1:10:50
I hope they buried him with a little pencil. You old folk will remember that.
Jason DeFillippo 1:10:57
Oh, till next time. I'm Jason DeFillippo.
Brian Schulmeister 1:10:59
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